Ghost loading Bushmeister

[moosey]

Hey all,

I've been jumping from M3k Stoeger to the Buckmaster to the Templeton T2000 and I think I've set my heart on the Bushmeister now. If anyone has used one I'd love to know what you think, lever pressure, types of loads it can cycle with and is there a break in period for the inertia spring to where it can eventually cycle some lighter loads.

My main question however is, can you ghost load a Bushmeister?

Cheers

[JohnV]

Some guns are setup to ghost load and others not . Can't find any reference to ghost loading a Bushmeister . I know how to do it but have never used it because I think having that extra shell on the feed ramp could cause a jamb . I can't see why it's even necessary .

[bigpete]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

[JohnV]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

Ghost loading is when you fill the tubular mag and then put another shell on the feed ramp and another shell in the breach but close the bolt so the shell on the feed ramp is not picked up by the bolt as it closes . Net effect is it adds 1 more shell to max capacity .

[bigpete]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

Ghost loading is when you fill the tubular mag and then put another shell on the feed ramp and another shell in the breach but close the bolt so the shell on the feed ramp is not picked up by the bolt as it closes . Net effect is it adds 1 more shell to max capacity .

So essentially what i just said....

[animalpest]

Interesting concept. Never tried it in my shottie

[bigpete]

Interesting concept. Never tried it in my shottie

You can do it with an IAC 87

[moosey]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

Cool to know about the recoil assistance, also is there a break in period. I've heard of people saying the inertia spring loosens up after heavy loads then you can fire lighter loads. If that's the case just run a bunch of 00sg or slugs lol. But sounds like you've been running 3 inches and can't cycle 28gram 1250fps. How many shots have you put through it?

[bigpete]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

Cool to know about the recoil assistance, also is there a break in period. I've heard of people saying the inertia spring loosens up after heavy loads then you can fire lighter loads. If that's the case just run a bunch of 00sg or slugs lol. But sounds like you've been running 3 inches and can't cycle 28gram 1250fps. How many shots have you put through it?

Probably 150 so far

[moosey]

I've had one some months now.
It won't eject 3" star crimped or 28gm 1250fps shells reliably.
Aside from that it works an absolute treat. The lever is pretty light and if you leave your thumb on it the recoil operates it for you
Mines a walnut one with a 28" barrel and its a little heavy and long but well balanced.
Not sure what ghost loading is so can't answer that one. If its loading a shell on top of the lifter as well as having one in the chamber and a full mag,then no you can't. Or at least I can't.

Cool to know about the recoil assistance, also is there a break in period. I've heard of people saying the inertia spring loosens up after heavy loads then you can fire lighter loads. If that's the case just run a bunch of 00sg or slugs lol. But sounds like you've been running 3 inches and can't cycle 28gram 1250fps. How many shots have you put through it?

Probably 150 so far

When I get my Bushmeister I want to buy a box of Eley blues, (in the Nioa promo video they got them cycling) see if it cycles them with tight and loose grips and then run heaps of buck through it to "break it in" then try with blues again.

[womble]

Can the Bushsmeinster do this https://youtu.be/Z5uHt4AwYb4?si=kvJmZLtbSekrSznB

[P04704]

Hey, does anyone know of a retailer selling accessories for the bushmeister?
Pic rails/sling swivels/mag tubes/stocks etc
Would Benelli M2 gear fit?

[d4n73n]

How does the Bushmeister cycle in comparison to the Buckmaster? I'm wondering which one would be more reliable, can't put too much faith in turkshit.

[bigpete]

Can the Bushsmeinster do this https://youtu.be/Z5uHt4AwYb4?si=kvJmZLtbSekrSznB

Most likely in that blokes hands

[Shootermick]

Can the Bushsmeinster do this https://youtu.be/Z5uHt4AwYb4?si=kvJmZLtbSekrSznB

That’s freaking awesome.

[Tiger650]

Cannot ghost load my BM, the loading gate / cartridge lifter cannot be depressed without a round in the chamber so the mag tube cannot be loaded prior to first rd up the spout.
Zombie Operator has began doing stuff for the BM, I have fitted his trigger guard release lever and it works well, be aware that the allen screw inside the receiver that fixes the std lever in place is damn tight, I gritted my teeth and used a 5" shifter on a good quality allen key for leverage !
Needed to use blue Loctite with that screw on the replacement lever as the female thread is a little deeper and fully tight binds the lever in the receiver, works fine.
Mag tube extensions, even though legal, are not available in Australia at the moment, suppliers seem a little "gun shy" for whatever reason.
Research leads me to believe that mag cap thread on BM is different to Adler and many others, "maybe" the same as the Benelli Nova / Supernova which almost certainly has different thread to Benelli M2 / M4 mag tubes.
A work in progress.
PS. The BM mag tube has a plastic plug in fwd end of the tube, I [carefully] removed this and can now load 5 x roll crimped 2 3/4" shells.

[bigpete]

You mean you couldn't load 5 before ?

[bladeracer]

Mag tube extensions, even though legal, are not available in Australia at the moment, suppliers seem a little "gun shy" for whatever reason.
Research leads me to believe that mag cap thread on BM is different to Adler and many others, "maybe" the same as the Benelli Nova / Supernova which almost certainly has different thread to Benelli M2 / M4 mag tubes.
A work in progress.
PS. The BM mag tube has a plastic plug in fwd end of the tube, I [carefully] removed this and can now load 5 x roll crimped 2 3/4" shells.

I saw mag tube extensions for the Tacsorus last weekend, don't know what other makes they might fit but it's probably a simple matter to re-cut one of the threads. There was also a Buckmaster(I think that's what it was) with the button release on the forend, both were very nice to shoot, but I found the Tacsorus lever-release fiddly compared to the left-thumb button.

[Tiger650]

You mean you couldn't load 5 before ?

Would fit 4 only, using NSI # 4 buckshot 2 3/4", Star crimped Winchester [from memory] could get 5 in.

[bigpete]

You mean you couldn't load 5 before ?

Would fit 4 only, using NSI # 4 buckshot 2 3/4", Star crimped Winchester [from memory] could get 5 in.

Mine has fit 5 standard and 4 magnum rounds from the beginning

[Tiger650]

One box of shells through the gun and the Zombie Operator trigger guard release lever failed, the inadequate M2 screw, which is threaded only approx 2.5mm into the lower half of the lever, stripped out.
Fortunately we were static and the lost part was easily found, I have now drilled right through the lower part and tapped to take an M3 button head screw loctited in place, pretty sure that will be durable.
Sorted a + 2 mag tube extension, $105.00 for a spare mag tube cap ex Nioa via local dealer, a case of beer to get that bored by a local Machinist and J B Welded a 25mm carbon fibre tube in place, capped that with a plastic plug J B glued in place and all good.
Adhesive lined electrical shrink tube over the carbon fibre tube also seals down over the tip cap and she is not coming loose.
The std mag tube spring works fine.
The whole thing was something of an adventure, ended up with carbon fiber tube as steel or alloy proved very difficult to find in suitable ID [22mm] .
As typically occurs I had to buy three times as much tube as required and a dozen bloody plugs [for $15.00 :] ]
Had to buy eight times too much shrink tube also.
Excess tube was good as I discovered that you do not cut CF with a copper tube cutter, it de-laminates.
I now have a std BM mag tube cap surplus to my needs and also enough CF tube, shrink tube and cap plugs to build another extended tube so if anyone is interested PM me, be warned though it is a little involved and access to a Dremel tool is a good idea. I will explain all if anyone is interested.