fav 7mm cals

[bigrich]

hey fellas, i'm thinking of a new sporter in 7mm of some description . i've had a 7-08 and while it was alright , i'm thinking of more oomf

anyone play around with 7x57imp , 280 rem , or 284win ? a 7mm rem mag would be good but i'm guessing it'll thump more than my 30-06

any opinions or words of wisdom

cheers

[SCJ429]

7mm SAUM?
7mm Lapua Magnum?

[bigrich]

7mm SAUM?
7mm Lapua Magnum?

too exotic for me mate

looking in uncle nick's manual , 7x57imp seems a very efficient case for a decent performing 7mm for hunting . thrives on 2209 which i like too

[GQshayne]

Never owned a 7mm.

But always liked the idea of a 7mm-08. Maybe convert one of my .243's one day.

[deye243]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

[Peterwho]

I have a Ruger M77 mkii in 7mm rem mag and really like it. I’ve had a couple of 30-06s but not anymore. One Ruger and one Remington but I much prefer to shoot the 7mm rem mag. It always seemed to feel a little better on the shoulder. Regards. Peter

[bigrich]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

for off the shelf availability the rem mag has every other 7 beat . one of the reasons i'm looking into 7mm is 130-150gn projectile weight better suits the game i hunt . 165's out of my 30-06 are best reserved for red stag . the lighter 7mm projectiles have better ballistics than 150gn 30 cal ones . i do like the slower 7's for better barrel life than a rem mag , but as a hunting rifle a rem mag barrel would see me out for quite a few years . bit of a bugger not being able to get magnum primers however

a few US makers were recently chambering rifles in 280ackley . not as quick as a rem mag , but good ballistics and brass can be formed from 270/30-06
i like the idea of a rem mag off the shelf , but i'd be stuck using factory ammo due to primers . might ring my smith and check what reamers he's got ...

[Oldbloke]

What's the point?

30.06 more or less sits between 7x57 and 7mm mag

[bigrich]

What's the point?

30.06 more or less sits between 7x57 and 7mm mag

boredom i'm off work and nit picking over ballistics and caliber choices truth is i should sell all the excess crap and just be happy with my super accurate 6.5x55 but that's not as interesting

7mm ballistics are really good and bullet weights are great for oz hunting .

180gn for elk and 200+ gn for bear out of the '06 don't really apply in south east QLD

as it is a lot of people seem to be loading 130gn for pigs out of 308 lately

[bigrich]

I have a Ruger M77 mkii in 7mm rem mag and really like it. I’ve had a couple of 30-06s but no anymore. One Ruger and one Remington but I much prefer to shoot the 7mm rem mag. It always seemed to feel a little better on the shoulder. Regards. Peter

how's accuracy with the 7mm rem ? factory or handloads ?

[JustAnotherShooter]

7mm PRC!! if you can find one in Oz let me know I will buy it too!!

[deye243]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

for off the shelf availability the rem mag has every other 7 beat . one of the reasons i'm looking into 7mm is 130-150gn projectile weight better suits the game i hunt . 165's out of my 30-06 are best reserved for red stag . the lighter 7mm projectiles have better ballistics than 150gn 30 cal ones . i do like the slower 7's for better barrel life than a rem mag , but as a hunting rifle a rem mag barrel would see me out for quite a few years . bit of a bugger not being able to get magnum primers however

a few US makers were recently chambering rifles in 280ackley . not as quick as a rem mag , but good ballistics and brass can be formed from 270/30-06
i like the idea of a rem mag off the shelf , but i'd be stuck using factory ammo due to primers . might ring my smith and check what reamers he's got ...

As you will be using the lighter projectile don't really need a magnum primer in a 7mm rem will work fine with 09 The case capacity really isn't much more than a 3006 if you are Worried about primary cup hardness don't even cci large rifle and large rifle magnum cups are both 0.025" thick.

[Baronvonrort]

28 Nosler or 280 Ackley for my next choice

Anyone here have 280 Ackley?

[Baronvonrort]

Forgot to add this one

[bigrich]

28 Nosler or 280 Ackley for my next choice

Anyone here have 280 Ackley?

yeah 280ack , that floats my boat

although the rem mag can be loaded milder . checked out mild 2209 in the rem mag , not that much diff between it and the 280ack

[northdude]

I've had a 7x57 in the past. I'm not into the exotic stuff either. It was a nice rifle to shoot and pretty accurate for a sporterised mil rifle. recoil wasn't to bad actually wasn't as bad as wifes 7 08. I'm looking for another one as it will be a good buddy for my 6.5x55s and I still have a lot of brass from the last one

[Peterwho]

I have a Ruger M77 mkii in 7mm rem mag and really like it. I’ve had a couple of 30-06s but no anymore. One Ruger and one Remington but I much prefer to shoot the 7mm rem mag. It always seemed to feel a little better on the shoulder. Regards. Peter

how's accuracy with the 7mm rem ? factory or handloads ?

I haven’t got around to reloading any yet. Factory ammo is usually Remington coreloks and Winchester deerloads. Accuracy more than adequate for me. Steiner ranger scope helps. It’s just a lot of fun to shoot. I never thought I would type this but it’s better than my Carl Gustaf hva 270.

[Boundry Rider]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

for off the shelf availability the rem mag has every other 7 beat . one of the reasons i'm looking into 7mm is 130-150gn projectile weight better suits the game i hunt . 165's out of my 30-06 are best reserved for red stag . the lighter 7mm projectiles have better ballistics than 150gn 30 cal ones . i do like the slower 7's for better barrel life than a rem mag , but as a hunting rifle a rem mag barrel would see me out for quite a few years . bit of a bugger not being able to get magnum primers however

a few US makers were recently chambering rifles in 280ackley . not as quick as a rem mag , but good ballistics and brass can be formed from 270/30-06
i like the idea of a rem mag off the shelf , but i'd be stuck using factory ammo due to primers . might ring my smith and check what reamers he's got ...

Plenty of Remington 9 1/2 mag primers getting around ATM imported from SouthAfrica. I bought a carton from Cleavers.

I load 150G GameKings to 3220fps in my uncle7, 1/2 MOA. Mine is 1in 10 twist though, not normal for 7RM.

[deye243]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

for off the shelf availability the rem mag has every other 7 beat . one of the reasons i'm looking into 7mm is 130-150gn projectile weight better suits the game i hunt . 165's out of my 30-06 are best reserved for red stag . the lighter 7mm projectiles have better ballistics than 150gn 30 cal ones . i do like the slower 7's for better barrel life than a rem mag , but as a hunting rifle a rem mag barrel would see me out for quite a few years . bit of a bugger not being able to get magnum primers however

a few US makers were recently chambering rifles in 280ackley . not as quick as a rem mag , but good ballistics and brass can be formed from 270/30-06
i like the idea of a rem mag off the shelf , but i'd be stuck using factory ammo due to primers . might ring my smith and check what reamers he's got ...

Plenty of Remington 9 1/2 mag primers getting around ATM imported from SouthAfrica. I bought a carton from Cleavers.

I load 150G GameKings to 3220fps in my uncle7, 1/2 MOA. Mine is 1in 10 twist though, not normal for 7RM.

This is mine from a few years ago 1026y 168 Berger vld 3070fps if turn the volume up a bit you will hear the impact.
https://youtu.be/4HlMxoO27fI

[bigrich]

I've had a 7x57 in the past. I'm not into the exotic stuff either. It was a nice rifle to shoot and pretty accurate for a sporterised mil rifle. recoil wasn't to bad actually wasn't as bad as wifes 7 08. I'm looking for another one as it will be a good buddy for my 6.5x55s and I still have a lot of brass from the last one

yeah , i agree the 7x57 is a great thing . would be great to have one to go with my 6.5x55 tikka . i'm considering rebarreling a tikka to 7x57 imp . very efficient cartridge with very good ballistics .

[bigrich]

7 rem mag I had 1 long range rifle and a howa sporter in a Boyd's stock and they aren't any worse than a 3006 to shoot with 160g loads .
Brass and ammo is everywhere.

for off the shelf availability the rem mag has every other 7 beat . one of the reasons i'm looking into 7mm is 130-150gn projectile weight better suits the game i hunt . 165's out of my 30-06 are best reserved for red stag . the lighter 7mm projectiles have better ballistics than 150gn 30 cal ones . i do like the slower 7's for better barrel life than a rem mag , but as a hunting rifle a rem mag barrel would see me out for quite a few years . bit of a bugger not being able to get magnum primers however

a few US makers were recently chambering rifles in 280ackley . not as quick as a rem mag , but good ballistics and brass can be formed from 270/30-06
i like the idea of a rem mag off the shelf , but i'd be stuck using factory ammo due to primers . might ring my smith and check what reamers he's got ...

Plenty of Remington 9 1/2 mag primers getting around ATM imported from SouthAfrica. I bought a carton from Cleavers.

I load 150G GameKings to 3220fps in my uncle7, 1/2 MOA. Mine is 1in 10 twist though, not normal for 7RM.

This is mine from a few years ago 1026y 168 Berger vld 3070fps if turn the volume up a bit you will hear the impact.
https://youtu.be/4HlMxoO27fI

crikey that's impressive shooting and accuracy . 7mm mag has a nice report too

[northdude]

Theres a couple of 7x57s at lgs. Ones a bsa and other one is a sporterised chilean mauser I think.

[bigrich]

Theres a couple of 7x57s at lgs. Ones a bsa and other one is a sporterised chilean mauser I think.

those early bsa sporters are a good thing . royals, monarchs . the CF2's are rock solid too . that sort of stuff is getting highly collectable and seldom seen .

[Billo]

never owned a 7mm but really enjoying playing with a 7.83mm atm

Will consider a 7-08 in the future

[Blr243]

Is a 270 considered a 7 mm ? Even though its really 6.8 mm. Old boring but still very effective

[bigrich]

Is a 270 considered a 7 mm ? Even though its really 6.8 mm. Old boring but still very effective

I had a couple. Really good ballistics, but not a really accurate caliber in my experience. Some caliber are inherently accurate, 222, 6.5x55, 7x57, 308. The 270 is not one of those in my opinion. If anyone has a really accurate 270, hang onto it .

[9.3x64]

I have used a 7x64 Brenneke most of my life, and I wouldn’t change a thing. 2209 pushes a 160 grain accubond very accurately at 2850 fps in a 22 inch barrel. Components are easy to find and most 7x64 seem to have a long throat and don’t mind a bit of jump in my experience. Recoil and muzzle blast is moderate . What more could you want…

[bigrich]

I have used a 7x64 Brenneke most of my life, and I wouldn’t change a thing. 2209 pushes a 160 grain accubond very accurately at 2850 fps in a 22 inch barrel. Components are easy to find and most 7x64 seem to have a long throat and don’t mind a bit of jump in my experience. Recoil and muzzle blast is moderate . What more could you want…

For simplicity I was thinking of the 280rem . Very similar to your 7x64. Both push 7mm projectiles at a real sweet spot ballisticly

[steadyeddy]

I have used a 7x64 Brenneke most of my life, and I wouldn’t change a thing. 2209 pushes a 160 grain accubond very accurately at 2850 fps in a 22 inch barrel. Components are easy to find and most 7x64 seem to have a long throat and don’t mind a bit of jump in my experience. Recoil and muzzle blast is moderate . What more could you want…

Nice group mate, I just bought one last week in a Sako 85 and am loving it. Surprisingly PPU ammo is shooting great through it, I'll reload once I use up a bit more brass. Can I ask what your safe starting and end load was with 2209? - as you know there's not much data floating around for it. Thanks

[straightshooter]

The only 7mm I have is a 7x65R. It goes bang and is mostly effective on appropriate game, but not spectacular. Mostly due to available projectiles being a little too hard for the typical game I encounter. It definitely won't shoot 1/4" groups.
I don't think I would ever bother with another 7mm but if in a crazy fit I decided to, then it likely would be a 7mm 08 only because it's almost as good as a 308 and brass is unlikely to ever be a problem.

Also it's nice to see that the 'inherently accurate caliber' myth is still alive and kicking.