Mag capacity by catergory

[Conallin24]

Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum magizine capacity is in Cat A and B rifles. I live in Vic but I would like to know other states as well. Thanks, Campbell.

[duncan61]

We used to have a 50 rd .22LR mag for a semi auto Stirling.Bitch to load and you could do a box in less than a minute.If a bolt action has a 10rd mag thats what it is.I think there is a restriction on lever shotguns of 5.why do you ask

[Conallin24]

Well I have seen on a QLD website 15,20 and 25 rounds mags for rimfires and up to 15 round mags for centrefires. Was just wondering if there was a restriction on that for Cat A/B (not that there should be I should add.)

[bladeracer]

Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum magizine capacity is in Cat A and B rifles. I live in Vic but I would like to know other states as well. Thanks, Campbell.

In Victoria I think we're restricted to fifteen-round mags in A/B.

Looking at the Firearms Category chart though I can't see any mag capacity listed for A/B. Mag restrictions only come with Cat C rimfire and shotguns. Cat C semi-auto rimfire is limited to 10rds and semi-auto/pump-/lever-action shotguns are limited to 5rds.

I found it!
So, Cat A/B _detachable_ rimfire rifle mags can hold fifteen rounds, centrefire is ten rounds.
If you have fifteen round mags for a bolt-action rimfire rifle (Ruger American for example) you can't possess them "in combination with" a lever- or pump-action rimfire rifle (Ruger 96/22 for example).
I can't find any restriction on mag capacity for Cat A/B shotguns.
Although lever-action shotguns are now restricted, I see that in WA a smarty pants is converting the Adler A110 to bolt-action to get it around the lever-action mag restriction.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Shotguns have NO mag limit. yet.
I would expect grandfathering anyway.
Lever action SGs are NOT now restricted, we will probably see some legislation soon, possibly AFTER the state election...
Note those 10/15round limits do NOT apply if you have a PP licence....

[Download]

Only a mag limit on handguns and Cat C here in SA. Last I checked we can still have 30 rounders on our 7615s.

[bladeracer]

Shotguns have NO mag limit. yet.
I would expect grandfathering anyway.
Lever action SGs are NOT now restricted, we will probably see some legislation soon, possibly AFTER the state election...
Note those 10/15round limits do NOT apply if you have a PP licence....

Do you mean we can still buy the A110 in Victoria on a Cat A/B licence with no restriction on mag capacity?

[Gun-nut]

In Vic, its 15 rounds for rim-fire rifles with detachable magazines and center-fire bolt action rifles, 10 shots however for magazine fed lever action and pump action center-fires. I don't believe there is any limit on tube fed rim-fires and center-fires.

[Gun-nut]

I don't think there are any magazine restrictions based on licence reason alone. If you change or add a reason to your licence you should be alright to keep your 'extended' mags.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Do you mean we can still buy the A110 in Victoria on a Cat A/B licence with no restriction on mag capacity?

Absadoobily.... cat A...

No law have been presented to parliament.... NFA is nothing more than a wish list until it goes through parliament.

If you want an Addie, go get one NOW... get 4 if you like, modify to .... 12 rounds with one of those super extended mags.... So buy it, then modify (lawful) to extended then UPDATE the registration so its recorded as a XX capacity....

They will absolutely* be GRAND-FATHERED so you can own them but they revert to Cat D if you sell.....

*maybe

[bladeracer]

Do you mean we can still buy the A110 in Victoria on a Cat A/B licence with no restriction on mag capacity?

Absadoobily.... cat A...

No law have been presented to parliament.... NFA is nothing more than a wish list until it goes through parliament.

If you want an Addie, go get one NOW... get 4 if you like, modify to .... 12 rounds with one of those super extended mags.... So buy it, then modify (lawful) to extended then UPDATE the registration so its recorded as a XX capacity....

They will absolutely* be GRAND-FATHERED so you can own them but they revert to Cat D if you sell.....

*maybe

Thanks for that.
All hypothetical for me as I have no interest in lever shotguns.

[VICHunter]

if a rifle is sold with a internal storage and say holds 4 rounds and that is what is on the certificate and you then fit a DBM to the rifle and it can no hold what ever the magazine capacity is. Are you meant to update the registration record? and how is that done?

VIC Pol says this

"You cannot alter your firearm or its magazine capacity so that it becomes a different category of firearm unless you have received permission from Victoria Police's Licensing & Regulation Division to do so."

Assuming we're talking about a Cat B bolt action here you could go from a 4 cap internal to a 10 cap dbm and still be cat B.

Although, I don't have my paperwork in front of me but I'm 99% sure it asks for, and states, capacity on the PTAs and Firearm Registration certificates.

I would get it updated regardless, or at least email and get a written response saying this is not required. Just to avoid confusion and potential inconvenience for yourself, say, the paperwork being different to reality next time you get a storage inspection.

My 2c.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Its 15rds for a cat B (no limit for PP)...... the 'changing' to 'change category' is the Firearms Act NOT "what police say"..... the police 'policy' and what they say isnt the law....though they might say it with a sidearm....

When it come to the Adler, I would suggest anyone who wants an extended mag Adler EXTEND IT NOW to 7+ because WHEN (not if) our socialist leaders in the SR of VIC change the Firearm Act to accord with the BS NFA...... your 7+ will be G R A N D F A T H E R E D....... and if not, just screw the old tube back on.... but importantly, email LRD with the NEW mag capacity BEFORE the laws are DRAFTED....

[cracker]

You could own an 30 shot magazine for a gun you dont own, say an ar15 mag or sks mag?

The law does state with "in combination with a pump or lever action...."

I dont own an sks or an ak or anything with a magazine of that nature, nor do i own anything chambered in 7.62x39.

Wondering what stops people collecting magazines as a hobby/general interest - other then having a gun license

[evilstig]

In Qld

Cat A - Unlimited (This includes shotguns and rimfire)
Cat B - 10 Magazine & 15 Tubular
Cat H - 10

[TassieTiger]

Its 15rds for a cat B (no limit for PP)...... the 'changing' to 'change category' is the Firearms Act NOT "what police say"..... the police 'policy' and what they say isnt the law....though they might say it with a sidearm....

When it come to the Adler, I would suggest anyone who wants an extended mag Adler EXTEND IT NOW to 7+ because WHEN (not if) our socialist leaders in the SR of VIC change the Firearm Act to accord with the BS NFA...... your 7+ will be G R A N D F A T H E R E D....... and if not, just screw the old tube back on.... but importantly, email LRD with the NEW mag capacity BEFORE the laws are DRAFTED....

Didn’t the feds only allow the Adler in if it complied with a reduction in mag capacity from 7 to 5 ?

[SyndicateLawyer]

Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum magizine capacity is in Cat A and B rifles. I live in Vic but I would like to know other states as well. Thanks, Campbell.

In Victoria I think we're restricted to fifteen-round mags in A/B.

Looking at the Firearms Category chart though I can't see any mag capacity listed for A/B. Mag restrictions only come with Cat C rimfire and shotguns. Cat C semi-auto rimfire is limited to 10rds and semi-auto/pump-/lever-action shotguns are limited to 5rds.

I found it!
So, Cat A/B _detachable_ rimfire rifle mags can hold fifteen rounds, centrefire is ten rounds.
If you have fifteen round mags for a bolt-action rimfire rifle (Ruger American for example) you can't possess them "in combination with" a lever- or pump-action rimfire rifle (Ruger 96/22 for example).
I can't find any restriction on mag capacity for Cat A/B shotguns.
Although lever-action shotguns are now restricted, I see that in WA a smarty pants is converting the Adler A110 to bolt-action to get it around the lever-action mag restriction.

From my understanding, not all the special conditions apply. They are there so the commissioner can apply those conditions in specific cases. For an example for CAT A&B, you can look at s14(1) Firearms Act 1996, which states that only general and special conditions 1,2 and 3 apply to CAT A&B licence holders, plus any condition the commissioner sees fit. So if there was something unique about your licence application, the commissioner may say you can have a licence, but now condition 8 is also attached to your licence, which is the max capacity condition.