English shooter's guns taken because his wife had cancer

[NTSOG]

G'day,

I just stumbled on this YT presentation about a Pom whose shotguns were taken because his [now deceased wife] had terminal cancer. Apparently, Police bureaucrats considered the 'situation' might result in danger to the public or the shooter himself.

Read the explanation by the Police after they were confronted by the shooting press. It's a classic example of bureaucratic over-reach also known as ass-covering.

Reportedly the bloke's guns will be returned on November 25.

https://www.fieldsportschannel.tv/cancergungrab/

[niteowl]

Hi Mate
A question not related to your post.
I do believe that you frequent the British forum too ?? Can you still access it, as all I get these days is that name is being "held"

[NTSOG]

G'day niteowl,

I suspect that the NV UK site has closed down. It may be partly due to the death of Bruce, aka Phoenix, who was especially knowledgeable about NV systems. There was also very little happening on the site over the last few months.

Jim.

[womble]

Should have got a divorce

[NTSOG]

womble: "Should have got a divorce."

Well Death did 'divorce' him, but even after his wife died he got a visit from a copper checking on his 'welfare'. I didn't know that street-level coppers in the UK had degrees in psychology or even psychiatry. It's a problem when bureaucrats with authority start making judgements about individual's mental state when they are not qualified. This is another example of government interference in bloke's family affairs excused on the basis of notional caring. Claiming to care is a 'wedge strategy' used by bureaucrats to excuse their interference. It presupposes that we plebs are so fragile we need Big Brother to keep us safe. The coppers placed a huge amount of stress on this bloke's family for a year. His wife was pretty angry on his behalf to the point she demanded a couple of days before she died, he try to get his guns back.

[No1_49er]

I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you.
Yeh. Right.

[Wapiti]

Get around a bit more and you'll soon find this is happening under your noses in Australia, and has been for some time.

We have a GP clinic and are seeing this, not for the first time, even in our local town. We hear about the instances where this is happening before we hear it from the angry discussions over the local gunshop counters.

How? Two things, one, people making it common knowledge when filling out official government paperwork like when renewing driving and firearms licences that they are undergoing major treatment for health issues.
It's not just people feeling intimidated when seeing questions relating to possible mental health issues or diagnosis, feeling the need to tell all and sundry, it's things like major surgery, hip replacements, chemotherapy, diabetes, sudden or unexpected fits.

Police show up with directions from Brisbane WL that a person's "genuine need" is now nullified because of health reasons beyond their control. No sympathy, no help, just like a hyena striking when a sick animal is at its lowest.

The other big one is "My Health Record", the insidious government idea that was presented as a place where all your GP's contributed to, so that even when seeing a new GP, all had easy instant access to your health history so you could be better treated. But it never did that, because GP's imported from overseas don't use it, and Australian GP's don't have the time during a pathetically low-paid Medicare rebated consult to keep it updated.
If you didn't voluntarily opt out, ANY and all of your health and personal medical information is now being trolled through by police, deliberately looking for reasons to cancel your firearms licences and take your guns.
The only way back is huge medical and legal cost representation in court, if you have the money, trying to get your sport/past time and possessions back.

I'm expecting the usual "rubbish, it's all bullsh*t" comments from the usual range comb-overs who do more screentime on the couch than actually going outside to see what's really going on. Hopefully it won't be you next time, when you're flat out dealing with your lifestyle diabetes issues and some public servant, paid to find people like you, hits the jackpot.
Because you still believe in imaginary butterflies and flowers when your heads in the sand.

[womble]

Operation Nosey by the Stickybeak Taskforce.

How do the police even know his wife was ill. How is this any business of theirs.

Why were they spying on him…Are they spying on me

Just seems like they had an opportunity to disarm someone so they went for it.

[NTSOG]

womble: "How do the police even know his wife was ill. How is this any business of theirs."

At the beginning he mentioned consulting the Police about de-activating a couple of shot guns. He probably mentioned his wife was seriously ill as one does in passing and the coppers took off on their own 'tangent' - which is sort of what Wapiti is saying. This sort of ignorant bureaucratic interference crap concerns me greatly because I'm autistic. I'm certainly not going to tell the coppers this, and I don't have to because (1) autism is not a mental illness and (2) I am not under treatment by a mental health specialist and never have been. However, all it would take is for some gung-ho, but ignorant copper trying to impress his superiors and I could have my rifles taken. In short don't tell bureaucrats anything more than required by Law. Bureaucracies and bureaucrats are always trying to increase their power and authority for their own career advantage, especially under 'woke' Labor.

Jim

[Wapiti]

Moral of the story regarding the typical government half-thought-out joke that is "My Health Record" is to look it up online and MAKE SURE you opt out.

Have I mentioned this one before? A really respected grazier in a local town here had a visit from the Gestapo with a seizure notice for his firearms. He asked, WTF I haven't as much as a speeding fine. But you can't say no to these people, or else.
Turns out his son was a habitual law-breaker, doing burnouts around town and drunken disorderly charges. He had his occupational firearms licence revoked, but that wasn't enough. Even though he didn't live on the farm anymore, the fuzz asserted he had access to his father's firearms in the farm safe. Even though the father argued that his son didn't have a key or access, the police confiscated his guns as a public danger.
They just said, take it to court and if the judge believes you, you'll get your guns back.
After what, I'm told, a Barrister quote of $20k? Yeah, justice in Australia.

Edit: next time you even have a form from your GP to go for a simple blood test, look at it carefully. I'm willing to bet that the box there that says "Do Not Send to My Health Record" isn't ticked. Tick it.
YOUR GP IS THE ONLY PERSON EXCEPT YOU THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR PERSONAL HEALTH DETAILS.

[womble]

Woke Labor is our future. We’re officially a one party state. The gun grabbers just imploded.
I think it gets colder every year personally. But the majority disagree and well the glaciers are kinda melty and stuff.

One party states afaik historically have only been communist or worse.

You need to lay of the panadols NTSOG

[NTSOG]

womble; "You need to lay of the panadols NTSOG"

I only take Nurofen - my body is too wrecked for Panadol to do any good.

[Billo]

Woke Labor is our future. We’re officially a one party state. The gun grabbers just imploded.
I think it gets colder every year personally. But the majority disagree and well the glaciers are kinda melty and stuff.

One party states afaik historically have only been communist or worse.

You need to lay of the panadols NTSOG

The Liberals took my guns whilst the Nationals rubber stamped it.

Labor have given LAFO more hunting and shooting opportunities in my states and then the other mob period,

[Wapiti]

The PA and Monash incidents and their subsequent political (pre- written by Labor, a fact) was enthusiastically supported, if not forced the hand of Howard with complete bi-partisan agreement from Labor. In fact, political threats if the conservatives didn't go through with it.
While it is politically advantageous to let the public help with exotic animal control in token efforts, at the same time restricting access to the tools required bit by bit is the smokescreen so many fall for. Labor are no better than those who have proven their uninformed knee-jerk reactions. More insidious to the enlightened amongst us are the games they play for the easily fooled amongst you.

[womble]

Forced the hand of Howard .

What a f***ing joke.

To this day he's proud as punch. It was his baby, years in the planning.
Certainly some notable Labor pollies had wanted it. But they would have to face a far more unionised work force and political suicide.

Every federal election the conservatives roll out Johnny to brag about their gun laws.

Credit where it's due.

[womble]

Woke Labor is our future. We’re officially a one party state. The gun grabbers just imploded.
I think it gets colder every year personally. But the majority disagree and well the glaciers are kinda melty and stuff.

One party states afaik historically have only been communist or worse.

You need to lay of the panadols NTSOG

The Liberals took my guns whilst the Nationals rubber stamped it.

Labor have given LAFO more hunting and shooting opportunities in my states and then the other mob period,

Same in Victoria.
And thanks to none other than Dan Andrews.

In fact most of the people hating on Andrews don't even know why they've been told to.

It's quite simply because he denied a state funeral for the pedophile priest ring leader .

They will tell you other bulls**t like lockdowns and s**t. But that's the real reason. When Pell was denied a state funeral they lost their minds.

[mchughcb]

G'day niteowl,

I suspect that the NV UK site has closed down. It may be partly due to the death of Bruce, aka Phoenix, who was especially knowledgeable about NV systems. There was also very little happening on the site over the last few months.

Jim.

I didn't know Bruce had passed away. He would have been mid 70s. He was very helpful and rather cranky at times. RIP.

[NTSOG]

G'day,

Bruce [Phoenix] on the NV UK site was extremely helpful. I learned a lot from his posts. It's still possible to read some of his posts on other sites under the handle of mealiejimmy. I think he kept people honest with his product reviews. I wish I had asked him why he hated Land Rovers so much.

Jim

[Wapiti]

Forced the hand of Howard .

What a f***ing joke.

To this day he's proud as punch. It was his baby, years in the planning.
Certainly some notable Labor pollies had wanted it. But they would have to face a far more unionised work force and political suicide.

Every federal election the conservatives roll out Johnny to brag about their gun laws.

Credit where it's due.

Time to wake up and let go of the past.
It's holding too many of you back, but it still doesn't stop you complaining about the lot you've made for yourself.

[womble]

Forced the hand of Howard .

What a f***ing joke.

To this day he's proud as punch. It was his baby, years in the planning.
Certainly some notable Labor pollies had wanted it. But they would have to face a far more unionised work force and political suicide.

Every federal election the conservatives roll out Johnny to brag about their gun laws.

Credit where it's due.

Time to wake up and let go of the past.
It's holding too many of you back, but it still doesn't stop you complaining about the lot you've made for yourself.

Agreed. Can’t change the past.
Not my lot or of my creation. I’ve never voted for liberal or labor in my lifetime. Nor will I ever.
Because both will stab you in the back. Neither are worth putting your faith in. They are frauds with only concern for their own personal gain.