holden4th wrote:Sounds like WA is a good place to have firearms compared to the Eastern states? Think again. In Qld I can buy a gun safe that covers A, B And H as you can in WA. The difference is the storage of munitions. In QLD I can place my primers, brass and gunpowder in a simple container that is 'secure' provided it's not in my gun safe. You can't do that in WA. It needs to be put in some sort of lockable container.
The major issue for WA firearms owners is transport. If you're driving to the range and back then it's no problem. If you want to sell your firearm after you find a customer then you now have to use a WAPOL approved courier if the buyer is not close to you. The cost is exorbitant.
Wow are you for real. You forgot to mention after you put these munition items in a secure container you then have to lock them in a room, drawer, cupboard etc with different key combinations in a
separate area than your firearms. WTF is that wank or don't you follow your laws.
You must store the SAA in a secured area in a separate area from firearms (with different locks and different keys or combinations), unless you’re authorised to do so under the Weapons Act 1990. A secured area might include a drawer, cabinet, cupboard, room or other enclosure that’s locked when no one is around. I'd much rather have my situation where all these items including my guns are in my gun and reloading "room" with simple easy access to all and which I'm also sitting in now as it also contains my pc
. I can also freely go in or out as it doesn't have to be locked as these items are all in individual safes, boxes etc in the SAME room.
And what is this further QLD reloading BS.
Note: A shooter who reloads their own SAA for their own use is a manufacturer. Reloaded SAA doesn’t need to be packed into original packaging (as above). The packaging or containers for SAA need only be similar to the original packaging supplied at retail. The SAA should be:
⦁ encased in packaging that’s clearly marked on the outside surface with the calibre, characteristics of the loaded SAA and maximum quantity of SAA.So you have to then clearly mark and describe all of your reloaded ammo on the outside of each container. Man that is ridiculous.
The major issue for WA firearms owners is transport.Mate, that has to be the most ill informed comment yet. Compared to WA, Qld has the the most restrictive transport laws on the planet. I don't even know where to start and it would take too long to describe them. But here's a small sample.
When you transport any firearm to a club or hunting etc you have to remove the bolt and put it in a separate container and if unable to remove it, fit a freaking trigger lock. Followed with a maze of locked metal container usage scenario's and resultant requirements which probably also relate to transporting your required ammo.
Whilst common sense would normally prevail, QLD also has to spell it out in case you don't have any and advise if you stop for petrol, burger or a quick slash, you cannot leave an unlocked vehicle with a firearm present unless someone else who has a firearms licence is present. Give me a break. You have to always take a mate with a licence just in case you forget to lock your freaking car.
Now compared to WA's transport laws our Act just stipulates that we just take
reasonable precautions . Fairly simple and relies on common sense so you be the judge of whose got the best transport laws.
In addition, a quote from WA Commissioner of Police to recent Law Reform Commission's review relating to transport of firearms;
"When firearms are in transit, for instance conveyed in a car boot or back seat, the owner being present would be sufficient security. If a vehicle is left unattended for a short period (e.g. parked outside a shop to purchase goods), WA Police would expect the firearm to be removed from common view, the bolt and/or magazine separated from the firearm and the vehicle to be locked."Note, "would expect" and no freaking trigger locks or boxes and if you don't lock it you don't need to have dragged a freaking licenced mate along to be present. So in reality whilst driving it could even be laying against the passenger seat but common sense would mean we would at least cover it and also lock up if going for a slash.
If you want to sell your firearm after you find a customer then you now have to use a WAPOL approved courier if the buyer is not close to you. The cost is exorbitant.So what is the cost ? This is Police policy only and it initially only related to carriers of Police firearms, ie to remote police stations. It stemmed for a carrier crashing on a country road and 3 Glocks were missing when it was finally retrieved and unloaded
. It's still being debated.
But either way what's the go, do you sell a gun every week so this would be a major problem versus yours and our general firearms transport requirements.
Surely you would just take it to your nearest dealer who then ships it to the buyers dealer and the buyer picks up these costs so what's the problem. I can legally ship any firearm myself direct to a buyers dealer in another State but I bet you can't. Confused the hell out of a NSW dealer who panicked when I shipped him two revolvers direct that I sold on Used Guns.
But at the end of the day no State has what could be classed by us shooters as perfect legislation as they all have differences and various restrictions of their own with good and bad points.