Chances that we'll get our semi-auto .22's back?

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Chances that we'll get our semi-auto .22's back?

Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 12:14 pm

I was speaking to someone (they weren't at all affiliated with Vic Pol or LRD at all, just an average shooter) the other day and he seemed to think that they're talking about allowing us to have our semi-auto rimfire like 10/22's back under cat a/b with a limited 10rnd mag capacity, I thought this sounded unlikely but me being a positive person I thought what are the actual chances this will ever happen? This was in regards to VIC specifically but I don't know about other states. Curious as its not easy to get Cat C for bunny eradication.
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Post by sungazer » 14 Jun 2018, 12:16 pm

Nah cant see it happening.
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Post by Daddybang » 14 Jun 2018, 12:34 pm

I think "not a hope in hell" covers it!! :lol: :drinks:
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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 12:44 pm

Daddybang wrote:I think "not a hope in hell" covers it!! :lol: :drinks:


Thats what I thought, although I said "snowballs chance in hell" but whats life without a bit of wishful thinking.
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Post by Archie » 14 Jun 2018, 1:11 pm

This is the .22 I really want....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50N5lQoAFw
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Post by southwest shooter » 14 Jun 2018, 1:17 pm

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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 1:19 pm

Archie wrote:This is the .22 I really want....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50N5lQoAFw


Imagine the Bunnies you could get with that thing, goodbye bunny colonies
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Post by spartan71 » 14 Jun 2018, 1:28 pm

Funnily enough, about 9 months ago there were a number of conversations about this happening between a number of SSAA officials and state and federal members. The concept they were talking about was for sports shooting - i.e. participating in accredited events such as gallery rifle competitions.
You are really talking about 22 semi-auto long arms as 22 semi-auto pistols are quite legal for sports shooting under cat H licenses.

I understand the talks were progressing well and then there was another school shooting in the US and idea hit an obvious road block.
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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 1:56 pm

spartan71 wrote:Funnily enough, about 9 months ago there were a number of conversations about this happening between a number of SSAA officials and state and federal members. The concept they were talking about was for sports shooting - i.e. participating in accredited events such as gallery rifle competitions.
You are really talking about 22 semi-auto long arms as 22 semi-auto pistols are quite legal for sports shooting under cat H licenses.

I understand the talks were progressing well and then there was another school shooting in the US and idea hit an obvious road block.


righto, bugger this could be what the bloke was talking about, and yeah it makes sense really, anymore talking about it at all or have they given up on the idea?
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Post by juststarting » 14 Jun 2018, 3:32 pm

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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 3:41 pm

juststarting wrote:
spartan71 wrote:Funnily enough, about 9 months ago there were a number of conversations about this happening between a number of SSAA officials and....


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you mean to say that the SSAA do jack towards our gun rights in reality?
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Post by Daddybang » 14 Jun 2018, 3:42 pm

spartan71 wrote:Funnily enough, about 9 months ago there were a number of conversations about this happening between a number of SSAA officials and state and federal members. The concept they were talking about was for sports shooting - i.e. participating in accredited events such as gallery rifle competitions.


Yeah that makes sense. ..ssaa pushing for something that would benefit them( and put money in their pockets) not the wider shooting community. :thumbsdown: :drinks:
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Post by No1_49er » 14 Jun 2018, 4:10 pm

[/quote]
Yeah that makes sense. ..ssaa pushing for something that would benefit them( and put money in their pockets) not the wider shooting community. :thumbsdown: :drinks:
And yes I'm a member.[/quote]

Your "logic" eludes me. What money, in whose pocket?
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Post by MontyShooter » 14 Jun 2018, 4:28 pm

We should be concentrating on something that at least has a slight chance of succeeding. Like easier access to cans.
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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 4:35 pm

MontyShooter wrote:We should be concentrating on something that at least has a slight chance of succeeding. Like easier access to cans.


very true, I would love to be able to get a can for fox and rabbit shooting and would prefer that to semi-auto .22's probably, although honestly I think semi-auto rimfire and suppressors both are pretty evil to a greenies so I'm not sure we have much of a hope at either to be honest. Although the dream would be a Suppressed 10/22 for Rabbits but I've got more hope to have a snowball fight with the devil in hell.
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Post by Daddybang » 14 Jun 2018, 4:41 pm

No1_49er wrote:

Yeah that makes sense. ..ssaa pushing for something that would benefit them( and put money in their pockets) not the wider shooting community. :thumbsdown: :drinks:
And yes I'm a member.[/quote]

Your "logic" eludes me. What money, in whose pocket?[/quote]

By pushing for semi auto to be able to be used by comp shooters (and no one else)then they will increase membership. More members=more money for the hierarchy to spend.
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Post by TBJ » 14 Jun 2018, 4:45 pm

MontyShooter wrote:We should be concentrating on something that at least has a slight chance of succeeding. Like easier access to cans.


Out of curiosity what are the realistic chances of suppressors actually becoming legal for us to own and use for pest hunting and target shooting in Vic or Aus?
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Post by No1_49er » 14 Jun 2018, 5:25 pm

Daddybang wrote:
No1_49er wrote:

Yeah that makes sense. ..ssaa pushing for something that would benefit them( and put money in their pockets) not the wider shooting community. :thumbsdown: :drinks:
And yes I'm a member.


Your "logic" eludes me. What money, in whose pocket?[/quote]

By pushing for semi auto to be able to be used by comp shooters (and no one else)then they will increase membership. More members=more money for the hierarchy to spend.[/quote]



Why do you say "and no one else"?
I think it highly unlikely that any change in legislation could apply specifically to member of the SSAA.
As far as the members of SSAA are concerned, isn't advocacy on behalf of those members what is expected. It should be noted that the SSAA has, as shown on their membership card, the interests of hunters, target shooters and collectors, amongst other things, in their scope of advocacy. Or do you suggest that rather than members paying, by way of their membership, that the financial costs of representation in court battles NOT be payed by the members, i.e. no representation?
More members, more income, more advocacy? Is there something wrong with that concept?
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