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Post by ZXRR » 05 Jul 2018, 2:22 pm

G'day guys, hoping you guys can help me since i cant get complete evidence / non contradicting evidence regarding it. Some people say you can, while others say you can but only for a very short time until you get sighted and then be on your way, and then you have the few that say you cant and you need to sight at a shooting range before going onto a state Forrest.

I have Dandenong Ranges National Park in mind for the target shooting to take place.

I'm going to email the licensing very shortly, and a local police station that hosts the firearm safety course, but i thought you guys might be even better.
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Post by NTSOG » 05 Jul 2018, 5:25 pm

Hi ZXRR,

Sorry, I didn't read your post until after I posted. Have a look at what I wrote about recent changes to the Victorian Act.

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Post by Wombat » 05 Jul 2018, 5:51 pm

"I have Dandenong Ranges National Park in mind" National Parks are 100% absolutely certain no go areas. A National Park is not a state forest.



Unless you have a game license and are Hunting Deer- and its in season and the particular park allows Deer Hunting.
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Post by bladeracer » 05 Jul 2018, 9:21 pm

ZXRR wrote:G'day guys, hoping you guys can help me since i cant get complete evidence / non contradicting evidence regarding it. Some people say you can, while others say you can but only for a very short time until you get sighted and then be on your way, and then you have the few that say you cant and you need to sight at a shooting range before going onto a state Forrest.

I have Dandenong Ranges National Park in mind for the target shooting to take place.

I'm going to email the licensing very shortly, and a local police station that hosts the firearm safety course, but i thought you guys might be even better.


Your title refers to state forest but your post suggest national park, which is it?
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Post by Gwion » 06 Jul 2018, 5:23 am

The OP has surely got to be trolling or stupid.

If that stupid and ignorant, they shouldn't be allowed a butter knife, let alone a firearm.

NO. YOU CANNIT TARGET SHOOT IN NATIONAL PARK. GO TO A RIFLE RANGE.
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Post by Ziad » 06 Jul 2018, 8:05 am

He wants to save the 20dollar range fee and the drive.

Maybe get a few acres... maybe 100+ ideally anges make your own target place
Blame it on the phone auto correct
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Post by YoungBuck » 06 Jul 2018, 9:05 am

ZXRR wrote:I have Dandenong Ranges National Park in mind for the target shooting to take place.


National Parks are off limits for shooting. There are some parks that are permitted for deer hunting only providing you are in the right season and have a deer hunting permit and double checked you are permitted to enter to hunt.
Other than that stay well away from national parks with firearms as even just being IN a NP with a firearm locked away in your car is an offence.
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Post by tracks » 06 Jul 2018, 9:31 am

Can't believe this question is being asked, I quote from the act "target shooting on an approved shooting range only" you cannot target shoot anywhere else, so how did you go with contacting the firearms branch and the local police, bet you haven't and if you did the police would be looking at how you got a firearms licence and failed to understand the law.
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2018, 10:26 am

tracks wrote:Can't believe this question is being asked, I quote from the act "target shooting on an approved shooting range only" you cannot target shoot anywhere else, so how did you go with contacting the firearms branch and the local police, bet you haven't and if you did the police would be looking at how you got a firearms licence and failed to understand the law.


You can target shoot on private property as well.
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Post by marksman » 06 Jul 2018, 10:42 am

you would be surprised how many people don't know delwp law, shooting in national parks ect :unknown:
and how many people have read the act :o
and why would they, its not taught anywhere, we all started somewhere :unknown:
this forum IMO is a good place to ask
have a good look here :thumbsup:
http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/visit/popular ... es/hunting
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Post by tracks » 06 Jul 2018, 11:56 am

markman I'm not surprised at all, it's up to all licenced firearm owners to know the law, forums are not the place to ask questions where the answers are usually wrong, quite simple to go on the net and search the firearms act, its all there in black and white. If one cannot understand the wording in the act the next step is to contact your local firearms police officer or the firearms branch for correct information. Simple!
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2018, 12:51 pm

tracks wrote:markman I'm not surprised at all, it's up to all licenced firearm owners to know the law, forums are not the place to ask questions where the answers are usually wrong, quite simple to go on the net and search the firearms act, its all there in black and white. If one cannot understand the wording in the act the next step is to contact your local firearms police officer or the firearms branch for correct information. Simple!


It's true that it's our responsibility to know the laws, but as non-lawyers, we simply don't know where to even look for the laws. I talk to shooters that don't even realise that we have both the Firearms Act and the Regulations to begin with, let alone all the various exemptions, and specifics. Forums may not be the best place to get legal advise, but I would bet that most shooters have learned more about the laws via discussion with others than they have simply by trying to find and interpret the laws.

We have laws that most reasonable people would never even consider might exist.
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Post by southwest shooter » 06 Jul 2018, 1:38 pm

Ziad wrote:He wants to save the 20dollar range fee and the drive.

Maybe get a few acres... maybe 100+ ideally anges make your own target place

Agreed , start door knocking you have nothing to loose .
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Post by marksman » 06 Jul 2018, 2:00 pm

tracks wrote:markman I'm not surprised at all, it's up to all licenced firearm owners to know the law, forums are not the place to ask questions where the answers are usually wrong, quite simple to go on the net and search the firearms act, its all there in black and white. If one cannot understand the wording in the act the next step is to contact your local firearms police officer or the firearms branch for correct information. Simple!


the firearms act isn't that easy to find :thumbsdown:
last I saw it was only obtainable in full from the department of justice but who would be expected to know that :unknown:
not that simple tracks give the guy a break and help him out :thumbsup:
firearms owners are not handed the information for a reason but you can give a link to an answer very easily to help someone out
it costs you as much as it does to berate someone online who has asked a genuine question because he did not know ;)
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Post by bladeracer » 06 Jul 2018, 2:05 pm

marksman wrote:the firearms act isn't that easy to find :thumbsdown:
last I saw it was only obtainable in full from the department of justice but who would be expected to know that :unknown:
not that simple tracks give the guy a break and help him out :thumbsup:
firearms owners are not handed the information for a reason but you can give a link to an answer very easily to help someone out
it costs you as much as it does to berate someone online who has asked a genuine question because he did not know ;)


Victoria Firearms Act, 1996
http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_Notes/LDMS/LTObject_Store/LTObjSt6.nsf/dde300b846eed9c7ca257616000a3571/09c184d87048bd4aca2579ff00167754/$FILE/96-66aa064%20authorised.pdf

Victoria Firearms Regulations, 2008
http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/Domino/Web_Notes/LDMS/LTObject_Store/LTObjSt7.nsf/b1612aeaf0625227ca257619000d0882/51898447f261697fca257a7e000bfece/$FILE/08-22sra002%20authorised.pdf
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Post by Daddybang » 06 Jul 2018, 4:07 pm

marksman wrote:
tracks wrote:markman I'm not surprised at all, it's up to all licenced firearm owners to know the law, forums are not the place to ask questions where the answers are usually wrong, quite simple to go on the net and search the firearms act, its all there in black and white. If one cannot understand the wording in the act the next step is to contact your local firearms police officer or the firearms branch for correct information. Simple!


the firearms act isn't that easy to find :thumbsdown:
last I saw it was only obtainable in full from the department of justice but who would be expected to know that :unknown:
not that simple tracks give the guy a break and help him out :thumbsup:
firearms owners are not handed the information for a reason but you can give a link to an answer very easily to help someone out
it costs you as much as it does to berate someone online who has asked a genuine question because he did not know ;)


Well said marksman :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Post by Gwion » 06 Jul 2018, 4:15 pm

marksman wrote:you would be surprised how many people don't know delwp law, shooting in national parks ect :unknown:
and how many people have read the act :o
and why would they, its not taught anywhere, we all started somewhere :unknown:
this forum IMO is a good place to ask
have a good look here :thumbsup:
http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/visit/popular ... es/hunting



Fair call. Maybe I was a bit harsh but.....

Your licensing instruction should have covered, at least basically, where you can and can't shoot. National Parks are generally a NO FIREARMS zone, with very few (and specific) exceptions.
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Post by tracks » 07 Jul 2018, 1:52 pm

daddybang look back at a couple of the replies, wrong advice and highly illegal what has been posted! I will state the only place you can target shoot is on an firearms approved shooting range, full stop, no where else or if you do it is breaking the law, so if you think a forum is the place to ask question regarding the act or regulations or the law you are wrong.
I am retired now from my profession, 40 odd years in a well know law firm, pretty sure I know what is right or wrong, this is the last time I post on this subject.
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