No1Mk3 wrote:G'day TBJ,
For what you want, a Cat 1 Collectors licence will do it all, you only need Cat 2 to collect post-46 handguns. Collectors clubs around Melbourne are
SSAA Arms & Militaria Club
Antique Arms Collectors Guild
As well as a couple of SSAA sub-clubs which have a Collectors Club attached
3MD Pistol Club
Military Rifle Club
The above 2 clubs require that you be members of SSAA, as well as the sub-club. I am MRC, and also joined our adjunct Military Collectors Club which is very cheap to join due to already paying fees to be a MRC member.
With a Cat 1 you can collect any longarm that meets your nominated collectors theme, for me it is military small arms 1950 to 1850, and I collect anything in that century, you can decide your own theme. The limitations are that semi and full auto longarms must be completely welded shut, so I don't collect them as I can't bear the thought of destroying them like that. You will need to upgrade your security quite a lot, apart from a safe/strongbox, walls of the room to be a "substantial physical barrier", door to be solid core with security hinges and a deadlatch lock, steel bars on any external window etc. Full details can be found in Schedule 4 of the Firearms Act. You are generally not permitted to shoot a firearm held under a collectors licence without a specific permit from Licensing which are not that easy to get. Permits are issued either as individual or club, and few clubs really bother. 3MD hold collectors shoots, but only handgun, we are also going to hold collectors shoots for handgun and rifle. At this stage we would only have 6 days a year for collectors approval shoots. Any thing else you need to know, just ask, Cheers.
cracker wrote:Ring around some of the above mentioned clubs, its a long process which isnt cheap.
Took me around 12 months all said and done
You can own cat C they need to be temporarily deactivated
Cat D needs to be permanent deactivation.
Its all online play by the rules and its a good time.
TBJ wrote:cracker wrote:How much money are we talking here? and What do you mean by its all online?
also how does one temporarily deactivate a firearm? remove the firing pin?
Chinballs wrote:TBJ wrote:cracker wrote:How much money are we talking here? and What do you mean by its all online?
also how does one temporarily deactivate a firearm? remove the firing pin?
The VicPol website is pretty good as far as info goes.
Its a lot easier to just whack a trigger lock on than remove the firing pin.You also don't have to worry about losing parts and if you get the locks keyed alike you will never lose all the keys. From memory I got four locks keyed alike for $15 on eBay. Cheap as chips.
TBJ wrote:Chinballs wrote:TBJ wrote:cracker wrote:How much money are we talking here? and What do you mean by its all online?
also how does one temporarily deactivate a firearm? remove the firing pin?
The VicPol website is pretty good as far as info goes.
Its a lot easier to just whack a trigger lock on than remove the firing pin.You also don't have to worry about losing parts and if you get the locks keyed alike you will never lose all the keys. From memory I got four locks keyed alike for $15 on eBay. Cheap as chips.
Ah ok so a trigger lock is ok? I just figured that since it's a condition of having the firearm registered under the Collectors licence that it would be more complicated than just a trigger lock.
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day sungazer,
Some collectors arms require temporary deactivation as cracker said, Cat C mainly, and removal of bolts may be one of those requirements. If so, they must be stored in a separate safe. This only applies to firearms held under Cat 1 licence, not A/B firearms, where the bolt can be stored on the kitchen table or left in the firearm as you please. It is not the only stupid, moronic piece of garbage intended to be an impediment to collecting. For instance, I have an 1883 Reichsrevolver, the Act says I have to fit a trigger lock even when it is in the safe, right next to my Colt Python comp pistol which does NOT need to have a trigger lock! Go figure!
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day cracker,
Schedule 2, Item 5 (7). It applies to handguns on the basis you can't remove the bolt or firing pin, so you must fit a trigger lock, Cheers.