bullzeye wrote:Why not ask the Registry and let us all know?
Common question - but we are yet to really know a proper answer.
I think their answer would be lock it in the car and lock you car in a private/ secure carpark.
Rider888 wrote:bullzeye wrote:Why not ask the Registry and let us all know?
Common question - but we are yet to really know a proper answer.
I think their answer would be lock it in the car and lock you car in a private/ secure carpark.
In theory that would be simple but how many places are there in the boonies actually have "secure" carparks? Not many I imagine. Funny thing is i spoke to them about everything else and forgot to ask that question today :O
Oldbloke wrote:Don't forget most cars have alarms fitted.
Stix wrote:What you going to SA for rider...
Hope you're not stealing any foxes or bunnies...!!
Wylie27 wrote:Cant talk about SA rider, but NSW which is part of your question.
There is no specific legislation in transport of firearms in NSW other than take reasonable precautions. However the commisioner has released a factsheet that “helps” to meet reasonable precautions.
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/as ... _Sheet.pdf
Section on cat c/d/h
What legislative requirements are there in relation to transportation of category C, D & H firearms?
Category C, D & H firearms must be conveyed unloaded, with the ammunition kept in a locked container separate from the firearms. They must be rendered temporarily incapable of being fired (eg by removal of the bolt/firing mechanism or the use of trigger locks) or must be kept in a locked container that is properly secured to, or is within the vehicle.
Now there is no information in legislation for the overnight stays.
I travel regularly with both my rifle and pistols, when staying overnight with my pistols, they stay with me, where i am, eg in my motel room. They are locked and not operational by trigger lock.
I also have a letter/email from the club i am shooting at with an invite to shoot so i can “justify” travelling with pistols.
As always this is not advice and research should be done.
Its a big grey area in nsw. Dont be stupid, use reasonable precautions as outlined in the factsheet.
Daddybang wrote:There's also the option of asking the local copper to store it at the station if the town has one. Saves all the worries.....except whether the cop is gonna steal it or not!!!
Rider888 wrote:Daddybang wrote:There's also the option of asking the local copper to store it at the station if the town has one. Saves all the worries.....except whether the cop is gonna steal it or not!!!
I was under the impression that Police Stations were reluctant to store weapons for the public
Rider888 wrote:Wylie27 wrote:Cant talk about SA rider, but NSW which is part of your question.
There is no specific legislation in transport of firearms in NSW other than take reasonable precautions. However the commisioner has released a factsheet that “helps” to meet reasonable precautions.
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/as ... _Sheet.pdf
Section on cat c/d/h
What legislative requirements are there in relation to transportation of category C, D & H firearms?
Category C, D & H firearms must be conveyed unloaded, with the ammunition kept in a locked container separate from the firearms. They must be rendered temporarily incapable of being fired (eg by removal of the bolt/firing mechanism or the use of trigger locks) or must be kept in a locked container that is properly secured to, or is within the vehicle.
Now there is no information in legislation for the overnight stays.
I travel regularly with both my rifle and pistols, when staying overnight with my pistols, they stay with me, where i am, eg in my motel room. They are locked and not operational by trigger lock.
I also have a letter/email from the club i am shooting at with an invite to shoot so i can “justify” travelling with pistols.
As always this is not advice and research should be done.
Its a big grey area in nsw. Dont be stupid, use reasonable precautions as outlined in the factsheet.
Thanks Mate for this. Shame there is so much grey. Maybe intentional to make things difficult for honest people
doc wrote:Re storage overnight. As I see it...
1) The law is intentionally gray - and I like it that way. It's designed to allow you flexibility to choose what is best depending on the scenario that you face. What is more appropriate for one person at one location may not be for the next person at the next location.
2) Forget being charged - unless the firearm is stolen. If the firearm is stolen - it will be up to you to prove that you chose the best option and no other more suitable option was warranted.
For me - I keep the firearm in the car, until I'm ready to go into the motel room and stay there for the night. A locked vehicle is a much safer place than an unattended motel (where numerous people may have keys) for when you're out having a drink, having a meal, etc.
Once I'm back for the night - the firearm and ammo come inside with me. (The ammo more for temperature sake than safety sake - as often it gets cold in the car and can affect the ammo, but that's another topic). The firearms stay in a locked container normally next to the bed. (I'm not putting anything under the bed - not after some of the things I've witnessed remaining under there... yuck!). Next to the bed will more than suffice...
Reverse occurs in the morning. If I'm going to leave the motel room and go somewhere (breakfast, etc) - the firearm goes back into the vehicle first.
At the end of the day it's common sense. Run a few scenario's through your mind - figure out what best suits for your situation. If I was sharing the motel room with a few strangers (unlikely - but if you were staying at a backpackers for instance) - then the vehicle would be the wiser option for the night. It all comes down to what is most appropriate - and for that I actually appreciate the grayness as it gives latitude for some common sense.
Stix wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Don't forget most cars have alarms fitted.
They do...?...i didnt know that.. i know most have ignition kill, but not alarms.
Oldbloke wrote:Stix wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Don't forget most cars have alarms fitted.
They do...?...i didnt know that.. i know most have ignition kill, but not alarms.
OK. Some do. One of mine does. I guess that’s life. Mainly newer models I think.