NSW new licence application how long?

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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by lionet » 17 Feb 2019, 11:09 am

GojiraSteve wrote:
Mr48Volts wrote:Nice one, you and Lionet give me hope, I’m at 111 Days and mine was lodged at the end of October so I’ve got my fingers crossed it will be soon. Be interesting to see how long your paperwork and photo license takes.


Cheers,
It's out of FAR's hands now so should only be subject to "normal" Government turnaround times That said, since Service NSW came into being I've been consistently impressed with their efficiency as compared to the departments they replaced. I'm betting I'll have the photo advice by the end of the week, and the physical licence well before I can get a PTA approved.


I think you need to wait for your physical licence before applying for a PTA no?
Experience of Service NSW is the very opposite of FAR. Went with my photo advice on a Friday afternoon with a service centre full of people and my waiting time was < 5 minutes. Bodes me well on their efficiency. My card should arrive next week. Then it's a-shopping time :)
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 17 Feb 2019, 11:34 am

lionet wrote:I think you need to wait for your physical licence before applying for a PTA no?
Experience of Service NSW is the very opposite of FAR. Went with my photo advice on a Friday afternoon with a service centre full of people and my waiting time was < 5 minutes. Bodes me well on their efficiency. My card should arrive next week. Then it's a-shopping time :)


Well, I don't know for sure, but I had assumed that as soon as you pay your money and have your photo taken SNSW will advise FAR that the licence has been "issued" and from there you can lodge an online PTA application. No need to wait for the physical card to arrive in the mail.
For sure you'll need the card when your in the store wanting to handle potential purchases or to take any purchases home. But the online PTA app should only require a valid licence number right?
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 17 Feb 2019, 11:37 am

Oh, Lionet, in case you didn't know, the application number you used to login and check the status of you application on the FAR site becomes your licence number once it's issued so you don't need the card to get the number.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by lionet » 17 Feb 2019, 2:48 pm

GojiraSteve wrote:Oh, Lionet, in case you didn't know, the application number you used to login and check the status of you application on the FAR site becomes your licence number once it's issued so you don't need the card to get the number.


Well I think you're right Steve. But there's a statement here:

https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/online_services/firearms/permit_to_acquire_a_firearm/frequently_asked_questions#pta8

Under [What requirements must be met to obtain a PTA?] it said
DO NOT apply for a PTA until your firearms licence has been issued and you've received your photo licence card from Service NSW/RMS.
so there's that. But I do understand what you mean. From a software system design point of view (I'm a programmer in my daily life), I think the moment you're considered to have your card issued is: when you check your license status online, it comes from [New Application referred to Service NSW for Issue - Not authorised for Firearms] to [Valid]. That's what I would consider the earliest possible moment one is allow to start the PTA application, saving a few days when the card is on it's way in mail.

But who knows, the government works in mysterious ways. I'll stick by the description of their web site, just to stay on their happy side.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 18 Feb 2019, 9:28 am

Hi guys, big congratulations!

I think you need to wait for your physical licence before applying for a PTA no?


I've recently got my licence approved (NSW) and when getting my first PTA lodged, as you would know everyone will refer you to use the ServiceNSW site (you might be able to lodge a paper one still as I read somewhere they would accept paper-based apps for 6 months).

When applying on ServiceNSW, you've got to supply your licence number and immediately it will attempt to validate it (no need to actually submit the application).

For me, it didn't allow me to submit my PTA application until my status was "VALID".

So what'd be the average time from this to NSW Service to send me a photo notice?


For me, my status changed on Saturday morning and I received the photo advice in the mail the following Friday (Sydney metro).

I found 6 working days about the normal time it takes to receive letters from FAR.

Be interested to see how long your physical lic takes to come through after you take your picture at the RMS.


This was quicker than it took for the FAR letters to come through.

It is sent from PARKES and took about 5 calendar days. Photo taken on Saturday morning, photo licence received Wednesday.

I assumed the FAR online status would change before I received the photo licence ... so I was keeping an eye on that ... I had rung the FAR to ask about submitting a PTA and they warned me that I wouldn't be able to submit a PTA until all computers are sync'd.

I received my photo licence on Wednesday but my status didn't change to "VALID" until Saturday morning.

On that Saturday, I tried submitting PTAs and ServiceNSW didn't allow me saying my licence number was invalid or something.

The following day, (Sunday) however everything was sync'd and I submitted my first PTA.

So from when getting "Referred to ServiceNSW" it was:
  • +6 days to get notice
  • +1 day photo
  • +5 days receive photo licence
  • +3 days for online status to change to "VALID"
  • +1 day to allow computers to sync and allow PTA to be submitted

Good luck guys! Getting there .. :drinks:

Cheers,
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 18 Feb 2019, 9:53 am

rookie wrote:I received my photo licence on Wednesday but my status didn't change to "VALID" until Saturday morning.

Cheers,
Mick


Well then... I guess that scuppers my plan to get the jump on the postie as far as minimising PTA wait time goes...

Ah well, i spose if nothing else this sport teaches you patience...
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 18 Feb 2019, 12:47 pm

jump on the postie as far as minimising PTA wait time


I tried going to ServiceNSW and showing them on my phone that my status changed to "Referred to ServiceNSW" and seeing if I could get the photo taken based on that.

The guy said no and that he needed the paper notice.

What I found incredible was when I did get my photo taken they said I could just use the existing photo on my drivers licence ....

So what's the point of going to ServiceNSW in-person?? Could have paid online and have the photo licence sent instead of the photo advice ..
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 18 Feb 2019, 1:31 pm

rookie wrote:
jump on the postie as far as minimising PTA wait time


I tried going to ServiceNSW and showing them on my phone that my status changed to "Referred to ServiceNSW" and seeing if I could get the photo taken based on that.

The guy said no and that he needed the paper notice.

What I found incredible was when I did get my photo taken they said I could just use the existing photo on my drivers licence ....

So what's the point of going to ServiceNSW in-person?? Could have paid online and have the photo licence sent instead of the photo advice ..


Wait so the photo advice gets issued by FAR not SNSW? I had assumed FAR electronically sent a request to SNSW to issue the photo advice and they took it from there. If FAR still have their fingers in the transaction (outside of just updating the status to valid) I'll DEFINITELY stop holding my breath :silent:
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 18 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm


So from when getting "Referred to ServiceNSW" it was:
  • +6 days to get notice
  • +1 day photo
  • +5 days receive photo licence
  • +3 days for online status to change to "VALID"
  • +1 day to allow computers to sync and allow PTA to be submitted

Good luck guys! Getting there .. :drinks:

Cheers,
Mick


Thanks Mick good to know :)
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 20 Feb 2019, 9:49 pm

Hey good luck Mr48Volts - the other two getting their licence progressed does sound like yours is just around the corner :thumbsup:

One of my mates just started the process all online. He lodged application 4 Feb 2019. Got acknowledgement letter dated 14 Feb 2019 (received yesterday 20 Feb 2019).

To keep a tally - from date of online application:
+10 days - Acknowledgement
+6 days - Receive acknowledgement letter
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 21 Feb 2019, 8:28 am

rookie wrote:Hey good luck Mr48Volts - the other two getting their licence progressed does sound like yours is just around the corner :thumbsup:

One of my mates just started the process all online. He lodged application 4 Feb 2019. Got acknowledgement letter dated 14 Feb 2019 (received yesterday 20 Feb 2019).

To keep a tally - from date of online application:
+10 days - Acknowledgement
+6 days - Receive acknowledgement letter


Thanks Rookie, I'm starting to think I should have just applied online in December, it would have been much quicker. Based on the other 2 lads, they were approved exactly 4 months to the days they had official lodgement Oct 12/Feb12 and Oct 15th/Feb15, mine was lodged Oct 29, so seeing as there is no Feb 29 this year, you'd think based on that I might be lucky on March 1st (next Friday), knowing my luck so far, I bet it doesn't I'm at 115 days today... It will be very interesting to see how quick your mates goes through
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Zeju » 21 Feb 2019, 2:00 pm

Dec 13 / N/A so far. Just hit 70 days and I suppose I'll be waiting a bit longer, but it'll come eventually. Glad to hear boys are starting to get theirs. The wait is pretty hard. I could definitely see people just falling away from the sport because of how hard it is to get into it.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 23 Feb 2019, 8:23 am

115 days refer to service NSW!!!!!!! Yes :)
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Zeju » 23 Feb 2019, 12:28 pm

Congrats man!
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by rookie » 24 Feb 2019, 1:40 am

Great stuff Mr48Volts! That’s one long wait!

Interesting that the last 4 got that advice on a Saturday morning.. looks like the servers only update “referred to servicensw” overnight on fridays
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by 2freeq » 24 Feb 2019, 8:35 am

Got a mate whose application date is 20th November 2018 and is still waiting. Hasn't received his refer to RTA letter yet or anything. he spoke to them 3 days ago and still gets the generic overload of applications and to check status online rather than ring them which just says new application in progress not authorised for firearms same as it has said for 3 months now..
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by Mr48Volts » 25 Feb 2019, 9:52 am

2freeq wrote:Got a mate whose application date is 20th November 2018 and is still waiting. Hasn't received his refer to RTA letter yet or anything. he spoke to them 3 days ago and still gets the generic overload of applications and to check status online rather than ring them which just says new application in progress not authorised for firearms same as it has said for 3 months now..


If his went in as a paper application like a few of us, I'd say he's got another month to wait at least, as we've all waited 4 months and been told the same story.
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Re: NSW new licence application how long?

Post by GojiraSteve » 26 Feb 2019, 1:55 pm

rookie wrote:So from when getting "Referred to ServiceNSW" it was:
  • +6 days to get notice
  • +1 day photo
  • +5 days receive photo licence
  • +3 days for online status to change to "VALID"
  • +1 day to allow computers to sync and allow PTA to be submitted
Cheers,
Mick



You're batting 1000 so far Mick. My photo advice arrived yesterday (6 days later as predicted)
Done the thing at the RTA this morning so it looks like 8 or so more days before everything's fully in place.
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