bladeracer wrote:No1_49er wrote:Rod_outbak wrote:I was surprised that electronic surveillance wasnt considered important; even at that stage.
Again; this was around 10 years back, it's on a remote(ish) rural property in outback QLD, and we were discussing the requirements for 30+ weapons.
A further absurdity would be the need for "electronic surveillance", and more importantly, to whom it would signal/report. I'm damned sure that the police wouldn't be monitoring your alarm system, leaving the next available option as a "security" business. If they were aware that in the event of an alarm there was going to be the distinct possibility that firearms would be involved, do you think they would turn up? And how far away would they be, anyway?
Yep, it all seems so logical.
We have a potentially slight advantage if we decided to go monitored. We have a quarry just up the road that have a security vehicle visit several times during the night, and across the weekend. If we went with them it's possible they might be reasonably close if there was an incident. But, I can't see them hanging around for an hour or more to prevent the thieves from returning after security leaves the property. I also can't see an individual being able to do anything more threatening than standing and watching the thieves taking my stuff anyway. Thieves in OZ are well aware that we are not allowed to use force to prevent them stealing our stuff, we can only use force if they attack us physically. It might be useful to have a security guard on site though to assist the thieves so they don't injure themselves and sue me.
Well you might have a slight advantage, IF, the security will actually attend an alarm event. Up here in QLD, they start ringing down the list of key holders first, until they get someone, tell you that there has been an alarm event, and then tell you that they can send a vehicle to do a drive by, if you want them to. But they won't enter until the key holder or police (which you have to ring) arrive. However, up here, our Common Law Right to use force (any force) to stop or remove persons we reasonably believe to be entering or in our homes with the intent to commit an indictable offence, is still recognised. As is the Common Law Right not to be sued for damages done to the perp, or his property, duing his commissioning of the crime.