Western Australia reloading components storage

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Post by Streamline » 21 May 2014, 11:37 am

Norton wrote:I'm keen on getting to Canada to get away from this nonsense.

Who's with me? Group forum buy on tickets? :lol:

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Post by Lyam » 21 May 2014, 11:39 am

Noisydad wrote:It must suck bad to be a west aussie - think you guys should succeed from the commonwealth to stop the rubbish from spreading!


Someone floated the idea of a group buy of a private island for hunting/shooting.

I'm keen ;)

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Re: Western Australia reloading components storage

Post by FiftyCal » 19 Nov 2018, 4:23 pm

Supporter wrote:
penthus wrote:I only have a 4 gun buffalo rivers safe which has a small ammunition compartment in it but not enough for brass, projectiles, powders and primers.

I was wondering if there is something I am missing or do you guys have a separate safe for your reloading components?


Nope, you're not missing anything.

As discussed, ammo and components have to be stored securely and separately to the rifles (don't put the ammo on the floor in your safe).

If the separate section in your safe will hold the ammo, great. If not you will basically need to get an ammo safe for your reloading components.

Welcome to shooting in WA :(


Just thought I would add to this thread, I know it's old, but I think it's important to note a change to storage of powder as this is now the jursidiction of Department of Mines and Petroleum. http://www.dmp.wa.gov.au/Black-powder-p ... 18581.aspx
It's no longer a good idea to store powder in your safe, needs to be as per DMP requirements.

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Post by DJCoopes » 22 Nov 2018, 3:52 pm

Noisydad wrote:It must suck bad to be a west aussie - think you guys should succeed from the commonwealth to stop the rubbish from spreading! Bit like amputating a gangrenous limb. :-P


We tried that a while ago, and the results are sitting on some brit's desk to this day... damned monarchist commonwealth
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Post by Bruiser64 » 22 Nov 2018, 10:17 pm

The reason for the powder storage rule is so that it can be easily removed in the event of an emergency such as a fire. You need to have a label identifying your powder container as “explosives” so attending emergency services personnel can identify it as a risk and easily remove it if they have to. I am of the opinion that the rule is actually a sensible one in that context.
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Post by zhuk » 24 Nov 2018, 10:29 am

Could be an apocryphal "WA-is-crazy" story we in the eastern States hear, but is it the case that if you're shooting in WA with a mate who is using a different calibre to the one you're licensed, picking up one of their brass would mean committing an offence?

I mean, I wouldn't surprise.me lol
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Post by DJCoopes » 29 Nov 2018, 4:24 pm

Lyam wrote:
Noisydad wrote:It must suck bad to be a west aussie - think you guys should succeed from the commonwealth to stop the rubbish from spreading!


Someone floated the idea of a group buy of a private island for hunting/shooting.

I'm keen ;)

:lol:


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Post by kb1 » 29 Nov 2018, 9:34 pm

so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 29 Nov 2018, 10:40 pm

It's been said before, but needs saying again.

The tragedy is WA is simply awful.
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Post by No1_49er » 29 Nov 2018, 11:34 pm

kb1 wrote:so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????

It is my understanding that even a spent 22 rimfire case (never mind that it can't be re-loaded) is considered to be "ammunition".
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Post by kb1 » 30 Nov 2018, 8:13 am

id better get rid of the 3 jerry cans of mower fuel i have in the garden shed also i guess that will be the next thing banned or illegal.
you can honestly see why joe citzen wouldnt even bother to obtain a firearms licence in west oz or be put off the idea from the start , theres just so many pathetic rulings.
if spent 22 cases are considered ammo well the SSAA is in for a fight . every rimfire range ive been to has wheel barrows full of spent cases laying around so whats the go with that.
if my firearms licence can and will be cancelled or revoked due to fired cases not locked away then this is a serious issue
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Post by 1Fatman » 30 Nov 2018, 9:18 am

My pistol club has already been given the heads up to clean up and get rid of all of the empty 22 shells that are lying around.
This came direct from W.A.P.A after meeting with the police. The issue is that the police are worried that Joe public can get in and collect the shells, reload them (yes it can be done) and use them in illegal firearms.
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Post by Daddybang » 30 Nov 2018, 10:04 am

kb1 wrote:so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????


Yep.

zhuk wrote:Could be an apocryphal "WA-is-crazy" story we in the eastern States hear, but is it the case that if you're shooting in WA with a mate who is using a different calibre to the one you're licensed, picking up one of their brass would mean committing an offence?

I mean, I wouldn't surprise.me lol



Yep if you have brass in your possession and don't have a license fora rifle in that cal/chambering then you CAN be charged(not saying you will be but you can be) unless ya have a collectors license.
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Re: Western Australia reloading components storage

Post by bladeracer » 30 Nov 2018, 2:18 pm

kb1 wrote:so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????


Yes, if WA allows you to store ammo in the bolt compartment within your safe. It is not an ammo compartment. Some states allow us to keep ammo in there despite the law saying otherwise - Vic for example. I don't recommend doing so though as they could change their mind at any time.
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Re: Western Australia reloading components storage

Post by bladeracer » 30 Nov 2018, 2:24 pm

No1_49er wrote:It is my understanding that even a spent 22 rimfire case (never mind that it can't be re-loaded) is considered to be "ammunition".
On ya, WA. Your servants and their minions write this stuff and enact into the statutes of your fun loving state.
You'll never find me there.


Empty brass needs to be drilled or made unusable in some way to be legally possessed by a person that does not have a licence for that specific cartridge.
Same with bullets, but I'm unsure about whether they count spent bullets as components still.
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 30 Nov 2018, 2:29 pm

bladeracer wrote:
kb1 wrote:so let me get this correct , my spent brass cases are cosidered as ammo and need to be locked away in the ammo compartment of my safe ????


Yes, if WA allows you to store ammo in the bolt compartment within your safe. It is not an ammo compartment. Some states allow us to keep ammo in there despite the law saying otherwise - Vic for example. I don't recommend doing so though as they could change their mind at any time.



Yes, that's the regulation in NSW, as below from the police website:

"What are the storage requirements in relation to ammunition? Firearms Registry
Ammunition must be stored in a locked container, separate from the firearms -
sections 40 (1)(d) & 41(1)(c) of the Act. The ammunition storage may be
separate altogether, or may be a separate locked compartment or receptacle
within the firearms safe storage receptacle or safe."
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