Westy wrote:The law in Queensland is you must have 40 acres plus one square foot!!!Now ( Mausers ) going to jump on this straight away but, IMHO when did a air rifle really become a weapon????? If you where shooting a compound bow your neighbour and the Cops wouldn't have a leg to stand on!!!! But as Brisb said get it in writing from weapons lic and your problems are over!!!!
KaptainM wrote:Hi Cashman,
Been looking at this forum for quite some time but I signed up to post this link for you regarding the 40 acres you hear about.
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/ ... tional.htm
Recreational shooting on rural lands (Categories A & B only)
For Recreational shooting on rural lands, the size of the property you wish to shoot on needs to be of sufficient size to ensure safe use for the category/ies of weapons (generally greater than 40 acres). It is an offence to shoot on or across neighbouring private land without the owner’s permission.
Bourt wrote:Cashman79 wrote:Some say I am fine others say I will have a case to answer to.
You'd be arrested on the spot for firearms offences if you were doing anything wrong.
They wouldn't tell you about it then leave, not to return
Cashman79 wrote:It is just so confusing and hard to deal with when you have some police saying that's a general "law" for any cat A or B firearms I mean it is even hard when I just put my 11 yr old son through his safety course a week ago and asked the trainer for clarification and he said needed a minimum of 40 acres so I said show me where in the weapons act it states it exactly and he said " oh I think it's in there somewhere".
Select the categories of weapons you wish to apply for...
...on the rural property for the following reason:
[_] The property owner/manager/lessee - Note: If the property is UNDER 40 ACRES, a police inspection MAY be conducted. Further information may be required.
Mitch@Ripley wrote:I always thought it HAD to be 40 acres for any registered "weapon"...not that it stopped me on 1.5 with the air rifle. What do you reckon the go would be with a .22 lr?
Daddybang wrote:Mitch@Ripley wrote:I always thought it HAD to be 40 acres for any registered "weapon"...not that it stopped me on 1.5 with the air rifle. What do you reckon the go would be with a .22 lr?
In qld there is no legislation to cover the land req there is however a Generally accepted min of forty acres for the use of a firesrm ij a rural area. If ya use a firearm on less than forty they will probably ping ya under the minimum distance from dwelling or road part of the weapons act. If ya get an a@@hole cop they will find a way.
trekin wrote:Daddybang wrote:Mitch@Ripley wrote:I always thought it HAD to be 40 acres for any registered "weapon"...not that it stopped me on 1.5 with the air rifle. What do you reckon the go would be with a .22 lr?
In qld there is no legislation to cover the land req there is however a Generally accepted min of forty acres for the use of a firesrm ij a rural area. If ya use a firearm on less than forty they will probably ping ya under the minimum distance from dwelling or road part of the weapons act. If ya get an a@@hole cop they will find a way.
There is no "minimum distance from dwelling or road" in the QLD weapons legislation, only that you can't "without reasonable excuse, discharge a
weapon in, into, towards, over or through a public place." (Section 57 (4)) and you must not "engage in conduct, alone or with another, likely to cause—
unlawful destruction or damage to property" (Section 58 (2) (d)).
The 40 acre thing is WLB policy and procedure when applying for a RE licence, that is, it is the point that determines how much work someone at WLB will have to do when approving a licence application.
Daddybang wrote:trekin wrote:Daddybang wrote:Mitch@Ripley wrote:I always thought it HAD to be 40 acres for any registered "weapon"...not that it stopped me on 1.5 with the air rifle. What do you reckon the go would be with a .22 lr?
In qld there is no legislation to cover the land req there is however a Generally accepted min of forty acres for the use of a firesrm ij a rural area. If ya use a firearm on less than forty they will probably ping ya under the minimum distance from dwelling or road part of the weapons act. If ya get an a@@hole cop they will find a way.
There is no "minimum distance from dwelling or road" in the QLD weapons legislation, only that you can't "without reasonable excuse, discharge a
weapon in, into, towards, over or through a public place." (Section 57 (4)) and you must not "engage in conduct, alone or with another, likely to cause—
unlawful destruction or damage to property" (Section 58 (2) (d)).
The 40 acre thing is WLB policy and procedure when applying for a RE licence, that is, it is the point that determines how much work someone at WLB will have to do when approving a licence application.
Thanks for clarification trekkin. It's been a while since I looked at the whole act. I thought I had read something about not discharging a firearm within two hundred meters of a road but I was obviously wrong!
pomemax wrote:Guy at work lives on 1 acre shooting his Air rifle in back yard next door complained to Police they came and spoke to him he said I was just shooting some rats that come out from near her (next door ) chicken shed then burning them
Policeman was nice asked him to stop shooting and he would refer the shed and rats to the health department of the council witch he did shed was removed after some council inspections and about 3 months
pomemax wrote: Who knew chicken shed need a cement floor, he was saying he needs another reason to shoot air rifle now .
Not all police are stacked against shooters
Stix wrote:A bit off track here...
But is it really called the "wespons act" in QLD...?
I find the use of that word (weapon) makes things all that much harder for us shooters...
It conjures up visions of violence & death & that is the subconcious effect all the anti's want for brainwashing the dumbo's against us...
We use firearms to shoot, not weapons.
In my book they are different...in the way that if you hold up a bank with a gun, or threaten someone with one, its a weapon...
But sports shooting is using a firearm.
If you are gardening & chop a branch off a tree you walk around your yard with a stick...its just a stick--until you go next door & beat your neighbour with it--then its a weapon...
Get my drift...?--the word used describes the action & intent... (well i know what i mean).
Call me old fashioned...but i make a point of saying "firearms" in ANY conversation now, particularly with the coppers...!!!
I believe it makes all the difference, & the uneducated feel more comfortable talking about it too...!
Just my observation guys...
I really hope you get it sorted mate...!!
winton wrote:pomemax wrote:Guy at work lives on 1 acre shooting his Air rifle in back yard next door complained to Police they came and spoke to him he said I was just shooting some rats that come out from near her (next door ) chicken shed then burning them
Policeman was nice asked him to stop shooting and he would refer the shed and rats to the health department of the council witch he did shed was removed after some council inspections and about 3 months
So the guys that complained about the air rifle had to remove his shed?pomemax wrote: Who knew chicken shed need a cement floor, he was saying he needs another reason to shoot air rifle now .
Not all police are stacked against shooters
Not all police but most are stacked against shooters. Its just how the legislation is worded. It gives them alot of room for interpretation but very little room to choose to do nothing since its just a hot political potato.
Oldbloke wrote:"So the guys that complained about the air rifle had to remove his shed? "
Just made my day
Pixter wrote:I used to live in inner-Sydney in a long, skinny terrace house with a corridor that ran the length of the building, through the kitchen and laundry to the verandah which overlooked the backyard. That became my shooting range. I played loudish Metallica throughout the house and ran the lawn mower in the backyard to disguise any sound from the .22 Diana PCP. My targets were concealed in a large, wooden, open-ended box filled with rags and adorned with pot plants and garden ornaments. After a time I dispensed with the lawn mower. No one suspected a thing.