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Maximum amount of ammo to store at home

Post by juststarting » 24 Feb 2016, 10:40 am

So a little random, but... Is there a maximum allowed quantity of ammo one is allows to store at home? 1,000 cartridge, 2,000... And are there categories of ammo in this context, like calibers, rimfire, shotgun, centre fire, etc.
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Post by southeast varmiter » 24 Feb 2016, 10:58 am

Nope. Just has to be stored in accordance with regs.
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Post by David Brown » 24 Feb 2016, 10:59 am

You need to check your state regs, here in Qld it is mines and energy dept and if you keep more than 10,000 rounds which is easy to exceed, you need to display a 1.4 explosive S1 sticker.

Of course that alerts any thief that breaks in that there are more interesting things to steal than your toaster and DVD player, but hey theme the laws as stupid as they are. But check your state.
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Post by TheDude » 24 Feb 2016, 11:00 am

In Queensland there is no limit but if you have over 10,000 rounds you need to have extra signage. Powder is limited to 15kg if your property is under 2 hectares. Over that you can have 30kg

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Post by Stubbles McBeard » 24 Feb 2016, 12:41 pm

In SA you're not allowed to have more than one years supply of ammunition. Stupid grey area.

"A person must not own or have in his or her possession ammunition that exceeds the reasonable needs of that person for the immediately following 12 months."
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Post by No1Mk3 » 24 Feb 2016, 1:05 pm

G'day juststarting,
Yes, there are definitely rules regarding quantity of ammo stored here in Victoria. It is regulated by Dangerous Goods (Explosives) Regulations 2011 (SR # 37/2011)
The pertinent section is Regulation 82, Part 5 of the Act and limits "small scale" storage by persons other than a Licenced Firearms Dealer to 40 000 rounds. There is no provision for type of ammunition at all, it is 40K in total. If you can satisfy Workcovers requirement for "medium scale" storage it goes up to 1 000 000 cartridges,
For reloading purposes, you can only store 10 000 primers, a stupid amount if you buy by the box of 5000, and use 4-6 types, and a maximum of 20Kg of propellant.Cheers.
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Post by juststarting » 24 Feb 2016, 3:58 pm

Perfect. Thanks all.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 24 Feb 2016, 4:00 pm

Stubbles McBeard wrote:In SA you're not allowed to have more than one years supply of ammunition. Stupid grey area.

"A person must not own or have in his or her possession ammunition that exceeds the reasonable needs of that person for the immediately following 12 months."


It's pretty open to interpretation here in SA.

Reasonable needs can be hard to prove if you never visit a public range, but for myself I keep a log of hunting activities and store what I believe to be a reasonable amount when it comes to 12 gauge and rimfire.
At least with my centrefire I like to load them fresh so I only keep up to 200 / 300 at any one time but store powder and primers instead.
Bulk ammo can have considerable cost saving benefits, it's a shame we need to worry about being prosecuted for being financially savvy.
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Post by brett1868 » 24 Feb 2016, 4:46 pm

I don't think there's any maximum quantity rules in N.S.W at this time but the N.F.A wankfest mentions putting something in place similar to S.A. The 2 times I've been inspected with the last time being September just passed the officer showed no interest in the type or quantity of ammunition I have. I can "Prove" that I shoot >25,000 rounds a year so it's got me beat how they can enforce or calculate a years supply.
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Post by AnotherMisfire » 24 Feb 2016, 6:26 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:G'day juststarting,
Yes, there are definitely rules regarding quantity of ammo stored here in Victoria. It is regulated by Dangerous Goods (Explosives) Regulations 2011 (SR # 37/2011)
The pertinent section is Regulation 82, Part 5 of the Act and limits "small scale" storage by persons other than a Licenced Firearms Dealer to 40 000 rounds. There is no provision for type of ammunition at all, it is 40K in total. If you can satisfy Workcovers requirement for "medium scale" storage it goes up to 1 000 000 cartridges,
For reloading purposes, you can only store 10 000 primers, a stupid amount if you buy by the box of 5000, and use 4-6 types, and a maximum of 20Kg of propellant.Cheers.


It cracks me up that WorkSafe - the people who deal with slip n falls - also deal with ammunition in Vic.
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Post by brett1868 » 24 Feb 2016, 9:26 pm

It cracks me up that WorkSafe - the people who deal with slip n falls - also deal with ammunition in Vic.


Same north of the border, we're allowed 15kgs of powder but can have a s-load more if you can get a WorkCover permit. My local has a 200kg capacity and I'm sure HPGS being a much bigger shop and out in the sticks can probably have double or more...

Seems to make sense as they are the ones responsible to ensure workplace safety, after all it's WorkCover that issue's explosives permits to the mines.
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Post by Oldbloke » 24 Feb 2016, 9:41 pm

" it cracks me up that WorkSafe - the people who deal with slip n falls - also deal with ammunition in Vic."
Agree, but worksafe deal in many matters relating to safety. Dangerous Goods & Explosives, (a Class of DGs) come under their juristiction. In a way it makes sense as as many work places hold large quantities of DGs. Its also a specialised area and some of the inspectorate have expertise in tbe area. Most have very little.
Having said that their focus is work places, so generally we are under the radar.

Some polititian or career department head decided yrs ago that was the best way. :unknown:
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Post by AnotherMisfire » 24 Feb 2016, 11:11 pm

Yeah I get why they have it. But it still gives me the giggles.

In the "deep North" we have our own explosives directorate with the mine department. Probably because we have more mining activity.
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Post by Oldbloke » 25 Feb 2016, 4:32 am

AnotherMisfire wrote:Yeah I get why they have it. But it still gives me the giggles.

In the "deep North" we have our own explosives directorate with the mine department. Probably because we have more mining activity.


Could be a few reasons for that. Dont get me wrong but explosives used in mining are fairly simple in composition and easily managed.
Dangerous Goods can be far more complex and often tricky to manage as are some other explosives.

I could be wrong, could be political?
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Post by GLS_1956 » 26 Feb 2016, 2:40 am

Oh hell I have over 2,000 rounds of 22LR along with a few hundred rounds of 45ACP and 38Special sitting in my truck. No telling what's in the house. Telling an Oklahoman what to do is like trying to teach a pig how to sing. It makes you look like a fool and it annoys the pig.
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Post by MalleeFarmer » 26 Feb 2016, 6:52 am

You are a lucky thing. We can theoretically get prosecuted if a single .22 LR cartridge falls under our seat and for some reason the police find it.
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Post by Usurper » 29 Feb 2016, 12:32 pm

And don't forget in WA empty brass is "ammunition" and you could theoretically be done for having a lose spent case :roll:
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Post by juststarting » 05 Jan 2018, 6:21 pm

So I went to the range today. I only brought my Alfa 22 and BL-22. I had roughly half of bucket-o-bullets and some half used boxes of random 22 ammo.

So that's like 650 ( roughly half a bucket) and about 240 rounds of random crap that I wanted to use up.

So, yeah, it's possible to go through circa 1000 roundas of ammo in 4 hours. Reasonable use and all.
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Post by sungazer » 05 Jan 2018, 8:23 pm

Esp with that little Alfa brought back memories wont mention what as to give antis a target. Have been toying with the idea. A good gun for gun games with another person I think. You know those sort of star shaped moving targets when you hit them. perhaps you could set up lines to try and get it across. :D
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Post by juststarting » 05 Jan 2018, 10:45 pm

Could work...
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Post by bullzeye » 09 Jan 2018, 10:01 am

Usurper wrote:And don't forget in WA empty brass is "ammunition" and you could theoretically be done for having a lose spent case :roll:


That is strange, because in NSW empty brass is not considered ammunition.
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Post by AusTac » 09 Jan 2018, 10:21 am

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Post by juststarting » 09 Jan 2018, 10:24 am

Don't ask what? We don't have spastic limits in VIC, other than what's dictate by (I forget the name), work safe or work cover or work something? That's more or less a logical safety precaution I suppose.
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Post by sungazer » 09 Jan 2018, 11:45 am

I don't think the worksafe limits apply to individual persons only companies. The worksafe limit on primers is 20000 I know of many people that have more than that as they like to get certain batches or all of the same batch. I am not that financial or have the need for more than a couple of thousand. Empty brass considered as ammunition is crazy, having to lock it away, realistically how can that work say you wet tumble your brass, I leave mine out in a sunny spot in the house for a week. then it goes to the reloading room to wait till I need or have the inclination to reload.
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Post by Col » 09 Jan 2018, 12:00 pm

This may have been mentioned before, but in NSW air rifle pellets are considered to be ammunition for storage purposes. Go figure ?? :shock:
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Post by Daddybang » 09 Jan 2018, 12:42 pm

bullzeye wrote:
Usurper wrote:And don't forget in WA empty brass is "ammunition" and you could theoretically be done for having a lose spent case :roll:


That is strange, because in NSW empty brass is not considered ammunition.


That's just WA!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :drinks:

Col wrote:This may have been mentioned before, but in NSW air rifle pellets are considered to be ammunition for storage purposes. Go figure ?? :shock:


In qld it's not just storage . No difference between air pellets and cf ammo to purchase or possess. :drinks:
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Post by sungazer » 09 Jan 2018, 1:08 pm

kind of funny what about round ball sinkers. Even steel ball bearings made for sling shots. or just round ball bearings? marbles?
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Post by Ricochet » 12 Mar 2020, 8:16 pm

What if one posses a blunderbuss....then; rocks, nuts, ball bearings, pebbles, coins, just about anything that fits down it is ammunition. :wtf: :shock:
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Post by Oldbloke » 13 Mar 2020, 4:17 pm

Ricochet wrote:What if one posses a blunderbuss....then; rocks, nuts, ball bearings, pebbles, coins, just about anything that fits down it is ammunition. :wtf: :shock:


Interesting question. Not familiar with NSW regs. But my guess is that t h e regulations are "silent" on that matter. Untill u kill/shoot someone using pebbles or what ever.

Not well known but legislation does not cover every possible scenarios
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Post by John » 11 Apr 2020, 7:46 pm

Im in nsw don’t quote me on this I could be totally wrong but I think the limit is in kgs and if I’m remembering right it’s something like 50kgs please some one correct me if I’m wrong I can’t be sure just something that springs to mind.
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