CAT D Petition Before the QLD govt..

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CAT D Petition Before the QLD govt..

Post by Angel » 05 Aug 2016, 6:54 am

Hi Guys. I came across this current e-petition bbefore the QLD Govt regarding opening CATD weapons to sporting shooters. Unfortunately it can only be signed by Queensland residents etc. but it has over 1600 signatures already. Any QLD shooters out there that think the petition is worth supporting why not sign it and see if we can get a change.

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-o ... -petitions

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Post by scotty87 » 05 Aug 2016, 9:21 am

Signed, worth a try.
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Post by RoginaJack » 05 Aug 2016, 3:09 pm

Done...
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Post by Jandamurra » 05 Aug 2016, 4:00 pm

I' more radical than most people. I don't think you should have a license for any kind of firearm at all. However, I'm not knocking this proposal. Not being a Qld resident, I can't sign it, but if I was, I would.
No doubt a proportion of those signing this have views similar to mine. It could be considered an example of the "salami method"-slice by slice.
The ant's are masters of incrementalism if they can't get big changes right away, and this would be an improvement for shooters, for sure.
If anything comes of it, it would create an expectation elsewhere that this and more is possible.
It would of course be a fairly big departure from the National Firearms Agreement.
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Post by Heckler303 » 05 Aug 2016, 4:35 pm

Jandamurra wrote:I' more radical than most people. I don't think you should have a license for any kind of firearm at all.


Well, I would kind of prefer to have a license. If it meant I could have instant walk-in and buy, by already having a card with all my details. I would certainly enjoy that better than needing to wait ages for background checks/mental checks/spastic checks every time I wanted to walk in and purchase a firearm or ammunition. Also, it'd be more proof of being a law abiding firearm owner and have an extra slice of I.D on me if I ever needed it.

It's a tactic for both sides.
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Post by Angel » 05 Aug 2016, 5:30 pm

Thanks Guys. I know its a long shot but if it does improve out lot even slightly than it can only be a good thing.
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Post by Sam45 » 05 Aug 2016, 5:50 pm

Yep done.
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Post by Supaduke » 05 Aug 2016, 7:02 pm

Personally I think easing cat C first would be a better approach. Incremental thing in the opposite direction. Good luck though, I would sign if I was a banana bender.
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Post by Jandamurra » 18 Aug 2016, 3:50 pm

@Heckler303
You misunderstand me, Major.
I'm not in favour of background checks either.
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Post by bladeracer » 18 Aug 2016, 8:29 pm

Not in Qld but my daughter is so I've passed it to her with instructions to get everybody she knows to sign it :-)
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Post by AusTac » 18 Aug 2016, 9:50 pm

Jandamurra wrote:@Heckler303
You misunderstand me, Major.
I'm not in favour of background checks either.


Woooah

+ 1 for some form of anti crazy check at least that actually works
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Post by Gwion » 19 Aug 2016, 7:01 am

AusTac wrote:
Jandamurra wrote:@Heckler303
You misunderstand me, Major.
I'm not in favour of background checks either.


Woooah

+ 1 for some form of anti crazy check at least that actually works


I'm with you, AusTac!!! +10
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Post by sandgroperbill » 19 Aug 2016, 11:09 am

Same here.

My philosophy is fit and proper is fit and proper. License the person, not the firearm.
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Post by lole » 19 Aug 2016, 3:13 pm

Good luck fellas :thumbsup:
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Post by Jandamurra » 21 Aug 2016, 1:35 pm

@Gwion.
We can agree to disagree.
Just briefly, though, there is no "anti crazy check" that will actually stop a crazy or a crim from getting a gun, let alone allow someone to defend themselves from a crazy should the need arise.
I think we can all agree that the best single propaganda item for the "anti crazy check" has been Martin Bryant, but if he didn't do it-and he didn't-then that goes out the window.
To me, the anti-crazy check is a foothold for registering firearms. Let's say there's only a background check and no registration- a huge improvement on the current situation, to be sure. But you can also never be quite sure if your details aren't being secretly retained, including what you've bought. No information stored electronically is immune from this problem.
To get really paranoid (and why not?), I've read that gun shops across Australia were told to prepare for new gun laws 6 months before the PAM. Don't get me wrong-this is only something I've read-but it certainly fits in with what I do know about the PAM conspiracy. Considered in isolation it's nothing, but in with everything else, I'm inclined to believe it.
If gun shops can give no warning about massive changes to legislation, then they quite possibly could also give no hint that one's details are secretly recorded by the government in what amounts to a registry. As I have already brought up, though, their co-operation might not be needed.
Heads up to our US members, though the intelligent comments I've read from them indicate to me they have weighed this possibility.
People who support an "anti crazy check" see themselves as having a responsible, mature, measured approach, but what if they are just plain wrong about the need?
I say let it all hang out and to hell with background checks!
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Post by Heckler303 » 21 Aug 2016, 3:00 pm

Jandamurra wrote:@Gwion.
We can agree to disagree.
Just briefly, though, there is no "anti crazy check" that will actually stop a crazy or a crim from getting a gun, let alone allow someone to defend themselves from a crazy should the need arise.
I think we can all agree that the best single propaganda item for the "anti crazy check" has been Martin Bryant, but if he didn't do it-and he didn't-then that goes out the window.
To me, the anti-crazy check is a foothold for registering firearms. Let's say there's only a background check and no registration- a huge improvement on the current situation, to be sure. But you can also never be quite sure if your details aren't being secretly retained, including what you've bought. No information stored electronically is immune from this problem.
To get really paranoid (and why not?), I've read that gun shops across Australia were told to prepare for new gun laws 6 months before the PAM. Don't get me wrong-this is only something I've read-but it certainly fits in with what I do know about the PAM conspiracy. Considered in isolation it's nothing, but in with everything else, I'm inclined to believe it.
If gun shops can give no warning about massive changes to legislation, then they quite possibly could also give no hint that one's details are secretly recorded by the government in what amounts to a registry. As I have already brought up, though, their co-operation might not be needed.
Heads up to our US members, though the intelligent comments I've read from them indicate to me they have weighed this possibility.
People who support an "anti crazy check" see themselves as having a responsible, mature, measured approach, but what if they are just plain wrong about the need?
I say let it all hang out and to hell with background checks!



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Post by Die Judicii » 21 Aug 2016, 8:59 pm

Another two votes in favour from this household.
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Post by Die Judicii » 21 Aug 2016, 9:01 pm

Hey Brett,,
Didn't you say you were gonna become a Banana Bender ??????

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Post by sandgroperbill » 21 Aug 2016, 10:09 pm

Not with project fiddy
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Post by Jandamurra » 24 Aug 2016, 6:01 pm

@Hecler303
"What did I just read?" is no answer to anything I said.
Re-read it if you need to. I do that all the time-no shame.
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Post by mackoutback » 25 Aug 2016, 7:51 pm

Just signed up, remember - nothing will happen if we do absolutely nothing!
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Post by Gun-nut » 21 Sep 2016, 12:35 pm

Managed to sign it from Vic :)
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Post by southeast varmiter » 17 Oct 2017, 5:49 pm

No restriction for Asian gang members.
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Post by Download » 22 Oct 2017, 7:44 pm

Probably would ahve been smarter to go for Cat C before Cat D.
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Post by jak444 » 23 Oct 2017, 5:37 pm

Two signatures from my place of residence.
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