JC102 wrote:1) Do you have to be a member of a shooting range to own a rifle? And how often do you have to attend? I ask because I'm not in a great situation transport-wise at the moment.
JC102 wrote:2) What is the maximum amount of rounds you can have in a firearm in Victoria?
JC102 wrote:3) Is there any way to own a replica handgun in Vic? I noticed websites no longer ship to Victoria. Are you allowed to display them? I've been interested in setting up a display cabinet, but I'm unclear on the laws.
Muddy1967 wrote:Join the SSAA. That will give you your valid reason for a shooting license.
If I am correct you don't have to join a specific club.
Muddy1967 wrote:Join the SSAA. That will give you your valid reason for a shooting license.
If I am correct you don't have to join a specific club.
Aster wrote:JC102 wrote:2) What is the maximum amount of rounds you can have in a firearm in Victoria?
Hmm. I have the figure 5,000 in my head for some reason. Not sure where I got that from though... You'd want to make a call to Licensing and Regulations to double check that.
Antie wrote:I think he means magazine capacity mate.
Pretty sure it's 10, not 5,000
JC102 wrote:One more things, any ideas on what firearm I should learn with? Anything you can recommend would be appreciated. I'm interested in shooting regular targets and maybe clay targets later on.
Baldrick314 wrote:If you wanna shoot clay targets you'll need a shotgun.
Press wrote:Going to need some mad skillz to shoot clay pigeons with a rifle
Baldrick314 wrote:It's that whole moving through the air business that makes it difficult
JC102 wrote:Hmm, I thought I saw some 20 round mags for sale in Victoria on usedguns.com.au I've also seen 30 rounds being used in AU on YouTube. I assume the laws are different in different states?
Is there anyway I can try out a semi-automatic rifle at a range? Or are they heavily restricted? I understand that unless the laws change, I'll probably never get the chance to own one.
One more question about buying a firearm. Ok, so I know you have to submit a form called a 'permit to acquire', which can either be submitted online or at a gun store. So do you have to know the exact firearm you want first and have it on hold before you submit the form?
Thanks for all your help.
Baldrick314 wrote:Semi autos are only available for pest control when you can prove the need so you'll never get to try one at the range unfortunately.
Baldrick314 wrote:Unless it's vastly different in Victoria you just need to know the class of firearm you want to buy in order to get a PTA. e.g. if you want a centrefire rifle you need to submit a PTA for a category B2 firearm
Aster wrote:Baldrick314 wrote:Semi autos are only available for pest control when you can prove the need so you'll never get to try one at the range unfortunately.
Yup.
You're out of luck here JC. Semi-auto's are only given for primary production. From memory when you apply you have to specify the property where it will be used and a whole bunch of specifics.
Your permit/license is issued for these specifics and can only be used for the reason and in the places specified. If you have a Cat C license for pest control you can't take your semi-auto to the range or go hunting with it. You'd need to take your Cat B firearm for these instead.Baldrick314 wrote:Unless it's vastly different in Victoria you just need to know the class of firearm you want to buy in order to get a PTA. e.g. if you want a centrefire rifle you need to submit a PTA for a category B2 firearm
Just action, calibre and capacity from memory.
It seems to be a bit of a lucky dip as to what actually comes back on your PTA.
I've done one where it came back with "308" and "bolt action" and nothing else.
Then another which came back with make, model, capacity, and all the rest.
Baldrick314 wrote:We really need uniform firearm laws don't we? lol. I always wondered if you had a semi-auto for primary production whether there's some concession to take it to the range for sighting in.
JC102 wrote:Damn. Guess I'll have to pop over to New Zealand sometime Does the same go for pump action shotguns?
I assume before the buyback you could buy semi-automatics and handguns easily?
What's the deal with shooting on a family members property? I have family who own property, which is large enough for shooting. Once I get my license and buy a firearm will I be able to target shoot there?
JC102 wrote:I assume before the buyback you could buy semi-automatics and handguns easily?
JC102 wrote:I've heard/seen people target shooting on their properties heaps of times. I just assumed it was legal.
If you were caught could that result in loss of license? Or is it just frowned upon?
JC102 wrote:I've heard/seen people target shooting on their properties heaps of times. I just assumed it was legal.
If you were caught could that result in loss of license? Or is it just frowned upon?
Muddy1967 wrote:Are we talking Semi Auto's here or any fire arm?
Am I getting confused?, Is it legal to target shoot on private land with a bolt action Rifle in Victoria?
Muddy1967 wrote:JC102 wrote:I've heard/seen people target shooting on their properties heaps of times. I just assumed it was legal.
If you were caught could that result in loss of license? Or is it just frowned upon?
Are we talking Semi Auto's here or any fire arm?
Am I getting confused?, Is it legal to target shoot on private land with a bolt action Rifle in Victoria?
God bless,
Clay
JC102 wrote:Any firearm. I won't qualify for a semi-auto obviously so it will be a cat a or b firearm.
I'm not talking about setting up a range or anything. Let's say I buy a new .22, set up a target to shoot at (with a backing that ensures the bullets would not go through, I'll ask the safety instructor about that) and shoot say, 20 rounds just to test it out. Would that be ok? If not I'll just stick to the range.
Aster wrote:JC102 wrote:Any firearm. I won't qualify for a semi-auto obviously so it will be a cat a or b firearm.
I'm not talking about setting up a range or anything. Let's say I buy a new .22, set up a target to shoot at (with a backing that ensures the bullets would not go through, I'll ask the safety instructor about that) and shoot say, 20 rounds just to test it out. Would that be ok? If not I'll just stick to the range.
Mate, you'll soon learn that the problem with firearm laws is that most of it is very open to interpretation.
Like Lorgar said, strictly speaking you are not allowed to set up a range or do target shooting on private property in Victoria. The problem is they don't specify exactly what it means to be "a range".
You can sight in on private property. But again, it doesn't specify a limit on what number is considered "sighting in" and what number you have to cross for them to say your shooting like "a range".
Don't ask me why there is a difference between putting 1,000 rounds out while hunting, and 1,000 rounds out while shooting a target on your own property, but that's the way it is for the moment.
In practice, I can't believe anyone could possibly care about you putting 20 rounds into a target to break in / sight in a new rifle.
Like mentioned above though, if a neighbour complained to the cops that they could hear hundreds of rounds going out every day then you might have to explain yourself.
This is all being pretty pedantic though, just for the sake of the conversation.
For what you've described above, I'd be astonished if you ever had a problem.
Aster wrote:Mate, you'll soon learn that the problem with firearm laws is that most of it is very open to interpretation.
JC102 wrote:I understand that our firearms laws are quite good compared to most of the world (including the UK), but is there any chance that they will loosen up a bit or will they be staying like this?