scaredyet wrote:Do the cops check to see if they are tight, if not then it's sweet I don't need to do anything else
Wylie27 wrote:Any IT jobs there?? I am packing my bags..
<<Genesis93>> wrote:scaredyet wrote:Do the cops check to see if they are tight, if not then it's sweet I don't need to do anything else
Forget the cops..... are YOU happy with the Job? If YOU can move the cabinet, and pry it out, then YOU should not be satisfied with the security of YOUR property.... if so.... remove and start again...
scaredyet wrote:I watched a couple YouTube videos aand each one said to use the same size drill as the bolt you will use. So I bought 10mm bolt and 10mm drill. Lucky cause the holes on the back of my safe were 10mm as well. İf I try and use 12mm bolts this time I will have to make the holes in the safe bigger which I don't want to do.
I will keep as is because it's pretty solid, the only thing is that the nuts get tight but not too tight that it stops spinning.
İf you give the safe a pull it's not going anywhere.
Title_II wrote:I know I hail from a different culture, but my Aussie mates did once, too.
I don't want to step on any toes, but do you mates realize how absolutely absurd it is to be required to have the police come inside your home to inspect your firearm storage? It is an insult to human dignity. A human rights violation. I hope your kids haven't become numb to this because "it's always been that way." This garbage gets programmed into people.
You should be inspecting THEIR guns. Making sure they are properly maintained, what you spent your money on, and no more or no less than what is necessary for the job.
Title_II wrote:I found a gun the other day. I was like, "Oh, cool!"
When people bring kids or toddlers over I have to take inventory and gather everything up. I keep most of the stuff in the safe. But I have a kitchen gun that my family knows where it is, it is a Mossberg 9200. My family is from Jersey and they are shotgun people because they can't hunt with rifles there (barf). Then I have the guns on my person (nothing to worry about) and a rifle or SMG. But every once in a while I take something out to admire it and end up sticking it somewhere, or leave a handgun in a range bag.
Oh, no motorcycle helmets. Our local cops are not even allowed to use radar. Some call us Pennsyltucky
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Title_II wrote:I know I hail from a different culture, but my Aussie mates did once, too.
I don't want to step on any toes, but do you mates realize how absolutely absurd it is to be required to have the police come inside your home to inspect your firearm storage? It is an insult to human dignity. A human rights violation. I hope your kids haven't become numb to this because "it's always been that way." This garbage gets programmed into people.
You should be inspecting THEIR guns. Making sure they are properly maintained, what you spent your money on, and no more or no less than what is necessary for the job.
Yes. SOME of us realise how ridiculous and insulting it is.... some people actually ENJOY the experience of being violated and home invaded by the po-lees..(you've read the posts around these parts)...
Most people dont understand that the set of laws that YOUR 'constitutional right to bear' originates from is ACTUALLY LAW RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK IN STATES OF AUS.....we however allowed the traitors to negate it with additional laws - of course I'm talking about the Bill of rights of 1688....
Aaaahhhh forgetit, go back to sleep sheeple.
Jandamurra wrote:Title_II wrote:I found a gun the other day. I was like, "Oh, cool!"
When people bring kids or toddlers over I have to take inventory and gather everything up. I keep most of the stuff in the safe. But I have a kitchen gun that my family knows where it is, it is a Mossberg 9200. My family is from Jersey and they are shotgun people because they can't hunt with rifles there (barf). Then I have the guns on my person (nothing to worry about) and a rifle or SMG. But every once in a while I take something out to admire it and end up sticking it somewhere, or leave a handgun in a range bag.
Oh, no motorcycle helmets. Our local cops are not even allowed to use radar. Some call us Pennsyltucky
Obviously your situation is a lot better than Oz.
Believe me, plenty of people here still have a gun or two off the books, whether they're licensed shooters or not.
Just out of curiosity, why aren't your police allowed to have radar?
Title_II wrote:Jandamurra wrote:Title_II wrote:I found a gun the other day. I was like, "Oh, cool!"
When people bring kids or toddlers over I have to take inventory and gather everything up. I keep most of the stuff in the safe. But I have a kitchen gun that my family knows where it is, it is a Mossberg 9200. My family is from Jersey and they are shotgun people because they can't hunt with rifles there (barf). Then I have the guns on my person (nothing to worry about) and a rifle or SMG. But every once in a while I take something out to admire it and end up sticking it somewhere, or leave a handgun in a range bag.
Oh, no motorcycle helmets. Our local cops are not even allowed to use radar. Some call us Pennsyltucky
Obviously your situation is a lot better than Oz.
Believe me, plenty of people here still have a gun or two off the books, whether they're licensed shooters or not.
Just out of curiosity, why aren't your police allowed to have radar?
I don't know the history, but today it's basically because we don't want to turn police work into a revenue source for the municipality. Because then that's all they do, and it doesn't really help anyone.
duncan61 wrote:I appreciate I am a plumbing contractor with all the drills and ability but serious people you have to buy or build a suitable storage container/gun safe that complies to the easily read instructions and bolt it to wall/ floor with 4 suitable bolts/coach screws.It can be done for $300AUD or less if you get a second hand gunsafe of gumtree.Takes about 1 hour
What is this emergency you need quick access,If you are having problems with cats or foxes keep you firearm loaded and with you.Its legal to have your lic firearm with you just dont leave it lying around for someone else to get and you are all good
.I remember how cool it was to have my 12g Greener on the wall above the fireplace but house breakins for drugs are on the up and it takes a bit of explaining where your shotguns gone.
.I had my safe ripped off the wall at Burringarrah remote Aborigional community.They used my plumbing tools to break it open in the bush and shot off all my ammo at the tip.I was not charged with anything and Meekatharra police recovered all my stuff by bargaining with the perps and I went and got it all back from the police station
Jandamurra wrote:Title_II wrote:Jandamurra wrote:Title_II wrote:I found a gun the other day. I was like, "Oh, cool!"
When people bring kids or toddlers over I have to take inventory and gather everything up. I keep most of the stuff in the safe. But I have a kitchen gun that my family knows where it is, it is a Mossberg 9200. My family is from Jersey and they are shotgun people because they can't hunt with rifles there (barf). Then I have the guns on my person (nothing to worry about) and a rifle or SMG. But every once in a while I take something out to admire it and end up sticking it somewhere, or leave a handgun in a range bag.
Oh, no motorcycle helmets. Our local cops are not even allowed to use radar. Some call us Pennsyltucky
Obviously your situation is a lot better than Oz.
Believe me, plenty of people here still have a gun or two off the books, whether they're licensed shooters or not.
Just out of curiosity, why aren't your police allowed to have radar?
I don't know the history, but today it's basically because we don't want to turn police work into a revenue source for the municipality. Because then that's all they do, and it doesn't really help anyone.
Very interesting.
Am I wrong to guess that when someone is speeding, the police just use any other evidence that would be available, such as eyewitness testimony, including their own?
Title_II wrote:
They can pace you, time you, or say, "That SOB was friggin flying so fast I could barely catch him!"
It tends to make cops leave people alone that might be breaking the speed limit but go after people that are really driving fast enough to be a danger. They are allowed to cite starting at 10 mph over the speed limit. But from a practical standpoint, they would probably only do that if they thought it was a menace. If they had radar guns or lasers they would all sit all day and bang people breaking the speed limit to raise money because it is a screen with a number on it, and the municipality paid for it for a reason. And the reason has nothing to do with safety.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:If the limit is 60, and you exceed that limit - you're fined. They graciously allow an error (they call it something else, of I think 4km/h, but 1 kay over and you're done.
Gamerancher wrote:Yeah, sorry there is no "allowance". I got fined for doing 82 in an 80 zone in the tunnel on coming off the , sh*t, what do you call it now, was the S.E freeway back then anyway. Camera offence, wrote a letter asking that surely this was an allowable error in the speedo of my vehicle, reply stated that there is NO ALLOWANCES. I was in a MONSTROUS KILLER, B-DOUBLE BEHEMOTH truck, maybe that is the difference. $369 fine for 2km/h, safety? You betcha!
Gwion wrote:The really annoying thing is that the Australian Standard tolerances for speedos is something like 7km+-, so you can be sitting under the limit according to your speedo and still be clocked at over the speed limit.
This is according to a keen car club colleague i worked with some years ago. He got quite worked up about it when we were having the discussion.
Ratsmitglied wrote:Except that the margin of error in the current standards is that the speedo can read up to 10% under, but not over the speed you are travelling
Regardless, speed cameras and police radar address blatant revenue raising devices, especially in Victoria
Title_II wrote:My cousin once studied a traffic area, I think it involved a bridge. They were having lots of problems with speeding and instead of looking at it as a revenue generator they decided to look at it as a problem that needed to be solved.
They raised the speed limit.
People started driving slower. Given the freedom to drive at a reasonable speed, people were no longer interested in getting an extra 10 or 20 miles per hour over the speed limit. They made a decision to stay mostly within the law because it was practical, where as previously nobody gave a crap.
When I lived in Jersey as a youngster I carried a gun illegally. Jersey is pretty much like East Germany was. Having moved to The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I no longer break laws. Even the stupid ones. I have freedom and I cherish it, and I respect the law.
Funny how that works.
Gwion wrote:Ratsmitglied wrote:Except that the margin of error in the current standards is that the speedo can read up to 10% under, but not over the speed you are travelling
Regardless, speed cameras and police radar address blatant revenue raising devices, especially in Victoria
That sounds completely arse about. Surely it is better/safer to have the speedo reading 10% OVER the speed you are travelling and NOT under it!??!
Makes absolutely no sense!