The Ammo Bill

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The Ammo Bill

Post by BluEsky » 13 Mar 2017, 3:55 pm

;) Remember when the Ammo Bill was being Debated in NSW prior to being enacted, a big number of thinking Politicians from all Parties expressed strong doubts as to whether it would be effective in Stopping Gun Crime! ;) Well After a Number of Years it is self evident that it has Not, if anything the reverse is true, the incidence of Criminal Shootings is now at a record level! :shock: This Bill has just caused more Red tape, and only affects LAFO's and the Firearms Ind. and has done ZIP to achieve what they said it would do! :oops: This should be reviewed!
Even some of The Shooting Sports strongest critics said at the Time "This Bill will do not a thing to Stop Gun Crime, But I will Vote for it Anyway! :oops: :wtf:
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Post by Wylie27 » 13 Mar 2017, 4:06 pm

Yeah.....

And who exactly is going to "review it"

The sffp? Nope to busy with greyhounds, RFS headquarters and council almagamations...

Labor? Liberal? erm nope.. not those three..

Maybe our gun lobby will lobby, nope...they are counting the cash.

Hmm yep posting on another inane we must get our rights back on a forum that's gunna do it..
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Post by BluEsky » 13 Mar 2017, 4:28 pm

Wylie27 wrote:Yeah.....

And who exactly is going to "review it"

The sffp? Nope to busy with greyhounds, RFS headquarters and council almagamations...

Labor? Liberal? erm nope.. not those three..

Maybe our gun lobby will lobby, nope...they are counting the cash.

Hmm yep posting on another inane we must get our rights back on a forum that's gunna do it..



;) :clap: .. Well For a Start how about..
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Mar 2017, 4:35 pm

What ammo bill.I called my local gunshop and they said back your ute in and we will fill it up.have you ever been refused ammo because you allegedly had too much
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Post by BluEsky » 13 Mar 2017, 4:48 pm

:D The SFFP Now have many strings to their Bow! ;) How about the New Voice in the NSW Parliament? :D :clap:

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Post by Wylie27 » 13 Mar 2017, 5:36 pm

Well we have no ldp at the state level.. lion tamer can blow all he likes in Canberra.. the states make the laws...

the fact remains the sffp are to busy worrying about greyhounds, council mergers and the head quarters of the RFS.

Woot, big Phil I was a police prosecutor donato his first interview he threw shooters under a bus... that's right no shooter needs a semi auto... that's right pistol shooters no semi autos for you.

The sffp have had 2 members in the upper house for how many years. Have they repealed the ammo bill ??

Will the greyhound and council supporters back the sffp? If you ask them you got blocked on Facebook.. their mouth piece Steve I love twitter Larsson uses the SSAA line we are working behind the scenes...

Read the boiler plate statement for the sffp and you tell me where shooters come into it.. last that's right dead last.

Let's back the shooters union, nope they are no where in nsw and are trying to be like the ssaa..

Back to Phil donate, has anyone heard him speak in parliament about legal gun ownership? Nope he hasn't, one mention regarding illegal guns and has spent his entire time taking about the bush and stuff..

We have no gun lobby in nsw nor do we have any political parties... it's f***ed
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Post by Wylie27 » 13 Mar 2017, 5:39 pm

duncan61 wrote:What ammo bill.I called my local gunshop and they said back your ute in and we will fill it up.have you ever been refused ammo because you allegedly had too much


Duncan are you in NSW?

The ammo bill is a nsw thing, every time you buy ammo you have to have your home address written down and it's recorded what you purchased and the amount. Ohh and if it's a pistol you have to prove it's for a pistol. Even the .22lr.... so you know how your licences don't have our addresses on it to keep it a secret, well now I buy ammo and hand over my licence to some guy who writes my address. The calibre I bought and the quantity so that when it falls into a crime hands they know where I live and what gun calibre I own..
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Post by bladeracer » 13 Mar 2017, 7:17 pm

Wylie27 wrote:Duncan are you in NSW?

The ammo bill is a nsw thing, every time you buy ammo you have to have your home address written down and it's recorded what you purchased and the amount. Ohh and if it's a pistol you have to prove it's for a pistol. Even the .22lr.... so you know how your licences don't have our addresses on it to keep it a secret, well now I buy ammo and hand over my licence to some guy who writes my address. The calibre I bought and the quantity so that when it falls into a crime hands they know where I live and what gun calibre I own..



Is it only for ammunition, or powders and primers also?
What happens if you cross the border and buy your ammo in Vic or Qld?
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Mar 2017, 7:32 pm

Interesting point.When I needed 7mm rem mag in Katherine NT I recall showing my licence but I am sure they made no note of it.I purchased 20x160gn highland
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Mar 2017, 7:32 pm

and 60 rds of hornet
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Post by duncan61 » 13 Mar 2017, 7:35 pm

Hornet is the correct size for cane toad destruction.If placed correctly you will get complete detonation e.g 5 seperate pieces.lucky I had a dry suit and googles cos it can be a wet sport
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Post by Wylie27 » 13 Mar 2017, 8:20 pm

It relates to complete ammo only.

It's completely stupid and I agree it needs to go..

I can go to QLD and buy ammo and bring it home.... no logging. Like if I buy ammo and give it to my licences friend.... I can buy pistol ammo on my rego papers and give it to a person who doesn't have that calibre... it relates to purchasing only.. not ownership
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Post by BluEsky » 14 Mar 2017, 1:54 pm

:D Well then what about asking the New crew on the block, they may have a suitable candidate? ;) They have some great Flags! 8-)
Perhaps they may be able to get a Senator to start a Political Party? 8-) :roll:

:D
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Post by BluEsky » 14 Mar 2017, 1:59 pm

:D 8-) ..
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Post by BluEsky » 14 Mar 2017, 2:08 pm

;) :thumbsup: Wylie27. Just remember ....

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Post by Wylie27 » 14 Mar 2017, 2:44 pm

:lol:
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Post by Chronos » 14 Mar 2017, 4:33 pm

And this is why people hate politics, even when their own interests are at risk

How about getting the facts straight before using them to back your own argument

rego papers are not required in NSW for .22LR ammo

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Post by Title_II » 14 Mar 2017, 5:53 pm

BluEsky wrote::D 8-) ..


You mates have porcupine? Is that porcupine? I hate porcupine. They eat houses. It's their natural prey. Storm doors, concrete, shingles, walls, yummy!

One time in Alaska I was moving through some tall grass up a hill and down the hill right in my face appears porcupine the size of a pig.

"Ahhhhhh!!!"

I had a rifle and a handgun and I ran away screaming like a little girl. I had no idea they would get that terrible.
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Post by Title_II » 14 Mar 2017, 5:59 pm

duncan61 wrote:What ammo bill.I called my local gunshop and they said back your ute in and we will fill it up.have you ever been refused ammo because you allegedly had too much


Blue lights flashing in my rear view
The sheriff said, "Boy I should've known it was you
You got fourteen guns in the back of this truck
I warned you twice and now I'm writing you up"
I said "Officer, what have I done?"
He smiled and said, "Boy you're having too much gun"

Too much gun, what's that mean?
It's like too much money, there's no such thing
It's like a girl too pretty with too much class
Being too lucky, a car too fast
No matter what they say, I've done
But I ain't never had too much gun

There was a fight Friday night at the stumble inn
Me and 'ole Harley just had to join in
Next thing you know we were both seeing stars
They threw us out, closed down the bar
I said, "The Long Branch is open the night's still young
And we ain't never had too much gun"

Too much gun, what's that mean?
It's like too much money, there's no such thing
It's like a girl too pretty with too much class
Being too lucky, a car too fast
No matter what they say, I've done
But I ain't never had too much gun

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Post by Gamerancher » 14 Mar 2017, 6:00 pm

Title asked, "you have porcupine?"
That is an Echidna mate. They grow to about 12 - 14 " in length, quills are quite sharp, live on ants and termites. They are a mammal but they lay eggs. (Monotreme)
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Post by BluEsky » 15 Mar 2017, 1:01 pm

Gamerancher wrote:Title asked, "you have porcupine?"
That is an Echidna mate. They grow to about 12 - 14 " in length, quills are quite sharp, live on ants and termites. They are a mammal but they lay eggs. (Monotreme)


:? I think in your reply to Title-ll you may have made a typing error Gamerancher? ;) ;) it should be 1.2 -1.4 Meters in length and the quills as well as being sharp are 12-14" long. ;) They have only lasted this long because they are so well equipped in their defence against their enemies the Drop Bear and The Killer Koalas !! :o
That is Why we need to have ready access to ammo to help defend them and don't need "No Stinking Ammo Bill" :? :roll:

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Post by Title_II » 15 Mar 2017, 1:25 pm

I friggin hate drop bears. :)
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Post by Wylie27 » 15 Mar 2017, 1:40 pm

I had a drop bear for a pet, but the government took it off me..
I loved that damn animal
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Post by BluEsky » 15 Mar 2017, 3:42 pm

Title_II wrote:I friggin hate drop bears. :)


:D ;) Well now after all that Poetry, I never would have figured you for a Jackalope kind of Guy! :D 8-)

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Post by BluEsky » 15 Mar 2017, 3:53 pm

Wylie27 wrote:I had a drop bear for a pet, but the government took it off me..
I loved that damn animal


Do not despair for we have a new Premier in this State and we will petition her to get you one of these! :o :shock:

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Post by Jandamurra » 15 Mar 2017, 3:57 pm

duncan61 wrote:What ammo bill.I called my local gunshop and they said back your ute in and we will fill it up.have you ever been refused ammo because you allegedly had too much

Doesn't mean it can't happen and I have posted evidence on this forum that limiting ammo sales was originally part of the NFA plan.
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Post by BluEsky » 15 Mar 2017, 4:21 pm

Wylie27 wrote:It relates to complete ammo only.

It's completely stupid and I agree it needs to go..

I can go to QLD and buy ammo and bring it home.... no logging. Like if I buy ammo and give it to my licences friend.... I can buy pistol ammo on my rego papers and give it to a person who doesn't have that calibre... it relates to purchasing only.. not ownership


:crazy: :roll: .
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Post by Chronos » 15 Mar 2017, 6:52 pm

Hey BluEsky,

how about you try typing an actual sentence instead of emoticons and someone else's pictures. You seem to want to draw some attention to this issue and there's no better way than to put some intelligent thoughts down in your own words

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Post by Title_II » 15 Mar 2017, 8:07 pm

Jackalopes came from America. They are an invasive species over in OZ.
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Post by duncan61 » 15 Mar 2017, 9:25 pm

With you chronos.Its like playing cards and everyone is into it but one player is screwing around and not paying attention and keeps saying is it my turn and what just happened.Handguns and Security are serious topics to be discussed rationally so informed decisions can be made and put in place.We have 2 SFFP members here in W.A.and I have the ear of the party.If there are genuine Issues that need addressing I am up for it.Can you stop with the silly pictures.I know I have the choice to not open threads but then I am missing what this forum is all about.Can any one point me to this ammo bill that is so important and if I agree its not reasonable it will get tabled for discussion
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