LurchUSA wrote:J
Australia has NO constitution, so you all are at the mercy of the future tyrants... er, I mean... government.
Mr Barnes found snipers had a 10-minute window during which they could have taken a “kill shot” at terrorist Monis but they doubted their legal power to use lethal force as well as having concerns a visible head belonged to the gunman.
happyhunter wrote:Mr Barnes found snipers had a 10-minute window during which they could have taken a “kill shot” at terrorist Monis but they doubted their legal power to use lethal force as well as having concerns a visible head belonged to the gunman.
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act ... 0072c068a6
So they didn't take the shot because they were not certain the visible head belonged to the gunman. That has nothing to do with fear of prosecution for killing the bad guy. They feared the blow back of killing a hostage by mistake, which they did anyway.
LurchUSA wrote:Australia has NO constitution, so you all are at the mercy of the future tyrants... er, I mean... government.
Daddybang wrote:Crim yells aloha snackbar -terrorist
Crim yells I hate pigs - no terrorist
Hell of a Grey area in between
Daddybang wrote:The coppers already have shoot to kill powers for the preservation of life but they have to prove the threat was real and immediate. That's why they didn't shoot at the lindt cafe earlier on when the snipers had a clear shot. Under the new proposal monis would be shot the second a terrorist attack is declared. Imo a much better outcome than the way it actually went down.
juststarting wrote:Daddybang wrote:Crim yells aloha snackbar -terrorist
Crim yells I hate pigs - no terrorist
Hell of a Grey area in between
In VIC crim yells... Pew pew pew pew pew follows. Lol
juststarting wrote:Daddybang wrote:Crim yells aloha snackbar -terrorist
Crim yells I hate pigs - no terrorist
Hell of a Grey area in between
In VIC crim yells... Pew pew pew pew pew follows. Lol
pete1 wrote:Yeh don't forget when they they changed the protest laws so its harder to protest.
We've had years of some parties trying to bring in employment laws that would allow employers to sack you for what ever reason you want.
wrenchman wrote:if they have to shoot i hope its to kill
Peeds13 wrote:It's terrible times we are living in, government is definitely getting more and more power and it seems the majority are more than happy to let it happen.
If people speed they can have their car confiscated, if people swear they can be arrested. Australia likes to be seen as a free country but it's far from it.
Gwion wrote:juststarting wrote:Daddybang wrote:Crim yells aloha snackbar -terrorist
Crim yells I hate pigs - no terrorist
Hell of a Grey area in between
In VIC crim yells... Pew pew pew pew pew follows. Lol
Haha...
Yep. VicPol have never had much in the way of qualms when it comes to shooting to kill. It's kind'a a proud tradition.
Peeds13 wrote:If people speed they can have their car confiscated.
Ben78 wrote:Peeds13 wrote:If people speed they can have their car confiscated.
How long before a speeding motorist is shot and the cop claims "I thought they were a terrorist" suddenly we have the USA problem of colours shooting first, asking questions later, and still getting off scott free, because now the law is on their side....
sungazer wrote:In Vic we have had a number of people shot dead for really not life threatening circumstances. This was a while ago and since then the police have been given pepper spray. I still think though they could have shot some of those people in the leg as they were really close shots. Its not that hard to aim low. your training might have said otherwise but commonsense and being able to think for your self should be able to over ride that.
sungazer wrote:In Vic we have had a number of people shot dead for really not life threatening circumstances. This was a while ago and since then the police have been given pepper spray. I still think though they could have shot some of those people in the leg as they were really close shots. Its not that hard to aim low. your training might have said otherwise but commonsense and being able to think for your self should be able to over ride that.
bentaz wrote:Gwion wrote:juststarting wrote:Daddybang wrote:Crim yells aloha snackbar -terrorist
Crim yells I hate pigs - no terrorist
Hell of a Grey area in between
In VIC crim yells... Pew pew pew pew pew follows. Lol
Haha...
Yep. VicPol have never had much in the way of qualms when it comes to shooting to kill. It's kind'a a proud tradition.
Not so much of shooting someone willing to shoot them, usually they just shoot crazy people with knives.
Ben78 wrote:Peeds13 wrote:If people speed they can have their car confiscated.
How long before a speeding motorist is shot and the cop claims "I thought they were a terrorist" suddenly we have the USA problem of colours shooting first, asking questions later, and still getting off scott free, because now the law is on their side....
Archie wrote:Ben78 wrote:Peeds13 wrote:If people speed they can have their car confiscated.
How long before a speeding motorist is shot and the cop claims "I thought they were a terrorist" suddenly we have the USA problem of colours shooting first, asking questions later, and still getting off scott free, because now the law is on their side....
The new law requires the police commissioner to declare an incident a terrorist event, before they pull the trigger. If he hasn't done that, the laws are exactly the same as they are now. And I reckon he's a little busy to hang around with Highway patrol speed traps waiting to sign death warrants because someone's doing 10km over in a school zone. But don't let that get in the way of your paranoia.