How much ammo do you have?

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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Member-Deleted » 31 Jul 2017, 11:35 am

Bladeracer i was talking to a bloke in the know and he states that with all these new bikie laws and terrorist laws police have the legal right
to ask a larger amount of questions reguarding firearms to gain a data base

Although he is not sure the ammo one is on the list but it could well be

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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by pomemax » 31 Jul 2017, 11:49 am

22 lr 7500
.17hmr 1000
.22mag 1540
22 hornet 82
223 1020
22.25 145
243 620
38special 536
357 mag 50
308 529
30-06 50
300wsm 270
30-30 310
303brit 120
9mm 3000
16772
That is how much ammo I used last year I keep a spread sheet with receipts attached , onus is on the defendant to prove that the quantity of ammunition in his or her possession was not more than was required,
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Supaduke » 31 Jul 2017, 12:46 pm

The law is unenforceable anyway. Just feel good window dressing. How can they keep track of ammo bought and ammo discharged? The police are only authorised to check your safe. What are they gonna do? Go through your whole house in search of ammo? How would they know if you shot 50 rounds or 500 at the range?. At best it would cause shooters an inconvenience. So many other issues in Australia and yet this is the best these assclowns can come up with.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by southwest shooter » 31 Jul 2017, 12:48 pm

Whenever a laws are passed that that the onus of proof is required by the defendant shows we are moviing ever closer to a police state .
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Member-Deleted » 31 Jul 2017, 12:53 pm

Yep all true Supaduke yet they seem hell bent on taking our sport away something given to us since christ himself was in nappies

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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 1:45 pm

I don't see how this could ever be enforced unless stores keep track of it and send it somewhere for "big data" processing as they said in the article. This is a mammoth task, without proper systems... And when or more likely 'if' you get an inspection, well, you know, you may actually let your friend borrow those 4kg cans of powder or a box of ammo, because they asked you for it... I just don't see how this could be enforced. And then you have ambiguity on - what's reasonable? And is it per rifle or in general. Per rifle, well most share primers and powders, so looking at it with equal distribution is a bit weird too, assuming those who stockpile actually do it coincidentally due to lots of guns. This is just weird.

...and then there's always an ammo collectors licence. ROFL
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by bigfellascott » 31 Jul 2017, 2:14 pm

bentaz wrote:While i am completely against any restriction of law abiding shooters (short of safe storage) i would find i difficult to store as much ammo as i go through in a year, unless they were going to limit components as well.
I reckon i could justify:
15 slabs of clay loads.
1000 loaded slugs.
2 slabs of no.2's
1 slab of buckshot.
1000 rounds of .222
1000 rounds of 6.5x55
1000 rounds of .303
1000 rounds of .303 sport
1000 rounds of 7.7 jap
1000 rounds of 8x57
1000 rounds of 6.5 carcano
Easy 5000 rounds of .22
1000 38 spec
And some others in lesser amounts 20ga, 410 etc.
Any one who thinks im exaggerating can check the thread on my birthday shoot, we went through half that mil-surp ammo in one weekend.


That's over 270rds a week or over 40rds a day. Glad I don't have that sort of addiction. :D
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Tiger650 » 31 Jul 2017, 4:31 pm

The grubs are pushing for a "cashless society" can you blokes connect the dots re what they will approve you spend whatever income they leave you on ?
Too much beer and your embedded chip will be rejected at the pub, forget ammo or components.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 4:56 pm

Tiger650, I already have a chip... It's recording everything that's being said here and I have no control over it. It's been implanted during my last abduction by an experimental craft, programmed to scan certain brain waves. In fact, this is being typed against my will, I am trying to resist but my fingers are just moving on their own. At this stage, I think the revolutionaries have hacked the system and took control of the chip and my actions. Please send help, bring foil. We need a lot of foil. And a donkey.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by scoobs » 31 Jul 2017, 7:11 pm

define a 12month supply lol
Tikka t3x super lite stainless .308/Nikon M-308 4-16x42 BDC-800.
Tikka T3X varmint stainless 22-250/Bushnell Trophy Extreme 6-24x50.
Lithgow LA101 22LR/bushnell rimfire 3-12x40
Adler a110 12Ga 20" tactical.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 7:18 pm

It's what your closest green assclown feels is reasonable for you to shoot in a year. Isn't it obvious?
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 7:30 pm

bentaz wrote:While i am completely against any restriction of law abiding shooters (short of safe storage) i would find i difficult to store as much ammo as i go through in a year, unless they were going to limit components as well.
I reckon i could justify:
15 slabs of clay loads.
1000 loaded slugs.
2 slabs of no.2's
1 slab of buckshot.
1000 rounds of .222
1000 rounds of 6.5x55
1000 rounds of .303
1000 rounds of .303 sport
1000 rounds of 7.7 jap
1000 rounds of 8x57
1000 rounds of 6.5 carcano
Easy 5000 rounds of .22
1000 38 spec
And some others in lesser amounts 20ga, 410 etc.
Any one who thinks im exaggerating can check the thread on my birthday shoot, we went through half that mil-surp ammo in one weekend.


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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 7:40 pm

I just buy about 5 or 6 rounds at a time. (LGS is very helpful in the regard)
Just in case a terrorist breaks in and steals my ammo. I wouldn't want them to start a war against the government. :roll:
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 7:56 pm

Last time I randomly ran into a couple of members from this forum on a street of some town and we just ended up going shooting, because we were all coming from our designated gunsmiths and had to stop at the lights and you know, there we all were... It was completely informal and random, as per the regulations... I recall I was about 600 rounds short, the other two probably close or above. So Bentaz, totally plausible.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Thom318 » 31 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm

You can almost follow the conversation,

Officer: Sir, why do you need 5000 rounds of .22lr?
LAFO: Lots of rabbits
Officer: Sir, I haven't seen any rabbits on this property,
LAFO: Thats the whole point
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by 360noscope » 31 Jul 2017, 8:47 pm

I have 650 rnds 22 132 of 243 and 40 rnds of 30 30 and need to buy up before the trip away if I let the young bloke loose he would shoot that in one afternoon
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by bigfellascott » 31 Jul 2017, 8:52 pm

I've got enough to keep me going for a while, I don't count it as I don't really care how much I have just so long as I have some ready to use when I need em that's good enough for me.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 9:05 pm

I would assume that primers count as ammo. So 1000 primers = 1000 rounds. No?

Then you have large + small rifle + large pistol and that's an easy 3,000 rounds right there. Depends how or what they count as ammo.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 9:06 pm

You guys should be watching 4 Corners tonight. Big brother really is watching. They will soon be revording your voice using your mobile when you buy ammo. I joke not.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 9:12 pm

Well, let me put a different hat on... I know I have an inspection coming up. I go and drop that 8kg worth of powder and few bricks of ammo in my bedroom. And pop them back after the inspection. You dig? They are coming to inspect storage, that's not a search warrant to roam around the house. Hence, I am not sure how this can be enforced without full shop cooperation.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by brett1868 » 31 Jul 2017, 9:18 pm

I don't know the number of rounds I have stored but it's over 500kg :)
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 9:19 pm

Oldbloke wrote:You guys should be watching 4 Corners tonight. Big brother really is watching. They will soon be revording your voice using your mobile when you buy ammo. I joke not.



You use Android or iPhone? You give voice commands? Well, guess what they both have your voice on record. I am not sure about Apple, how to delete that. With Google, check this out (make sure you are logged in as yourself to google):
https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols/audio

Yeah, old news fella :) ATO does voice verification too... Also, it can be faked.
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Member-Deleted » 31 Jul 2017, 9:21 pm

They're probably keeping an eye on this forum and just found out where your ammo stash is ( lol)

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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 9:21 pm

brett1868 wrote:I don't know the number of rounds I have stored but it's over 500kg :)


I think what you have is probably counted more towards small artillery, than small arms
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by juststarting » 31 Jul 2017, 9:31 pm

grandadbushy wrote:They're probably keeping an eye on this forum and just found out where your ammo stash is ( lol)

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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by thegooch » 31 Jul 2017, 9:40 pm

With good reason the death sentence was taken from the law makers that abused the law. You would be getting hung for the most meager reasons by now
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 9:41 pm

grandadbushy wrote:They're probably keeping an eye on this forum and just found out where your ammo stash is ( lol)

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I don't care. Only got 5 rounds. 8-)
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 9:45 pm

"With Google, check this out (make sure you are logged in as yourself to google):
https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols/audio

Yeah, old news fella :) ATO does voice verification too... Also, it can be faked."

s**t. Lucky I never shoot my firearms. :sarcasm:
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Jul 2017, 9:47 pm

juststarting wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:You guys should be watching 4 Corners tonight. Big brother really is watching. They will soon be revording your voice using your mobile when you buy ammo. I joke not.



You use Android or iPhone? You give voice commands? Well, guess what they both have your voice on record. I am not sure about Apple, how to delete that. With Google, check this out (make sure you are logged in as yourself to google):
https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols/audio

Yeah, old news fella :) ATO does voice verification too... Also, it can be faked.


Can I log in as Turnbullshit first? :lol:
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Re: How much ammo do you have?

Post by Member-Deleted » 31 Jul 2017, 9:50 pm

Well put juststarting and no you didn't

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