grandadbushy wrote:Ok you then look like a tank, where do we place the shell to fire it ? lol
grandadbushy wrote:Here is a bit of info you may not have read that I found on google about some of the states in America that put a temporary ban on guns
The findings of a survey was not surprising at the least
The survey was done by an independent group early into the bans and they found that crime elevated and violent crime rose greatly early into the bans
At the end of the trial period for the bans crime had risen more and violent crime had almost got out of hand and yet when they brought back the old
law there was still people wanting bans on guns I presume a lot of these were victims of gun violence whilst the bans were in place or prior
These findings can be argued for or against guns but the facts have been proven time and again even in Australia but governments still push for bans on guns
During the survey they interviewed inmates of a hard prison in the usa and they feared the armed citizen more so than the police because people feared for their
life and was wore prone to fatally shooting them
These findings echo all around the place that gun bans don't stop violent crime even if its committed with a gun and yes we will always have deaths by gun
the same as cars snakes and so on
So I ask you why doesn't the Australian government do a comprehensive survey and be practicable about this and be truthful about the findings or are they beyond truth
to people and i'm pretty sure the findings would be much like Americas
By doing something as simple as this would win them back some credibility for the government from most all gun lovers and non gun lovers because the truth would be there for all to see and then work on the act of criminals with guns period and crimes with guns
This would do more for the pollies cause than the deceitfulness and the knee jerk laws of now
grandadbushy wrote:Geez if there is any truth in that heavy ****** then what chance do we have
Although some of it does seem to fall into place wether it was planed that way or not who knows but it does leave you thinking
The part where the filthy rich don't give a flying f*** about ordinary people that has always been the case
So its all about power nothing more
brett1868 wrote:AusTac wrote:Yeah heard about that :/ dta's are apparently no go now, would be interested to know how you get on brett
Chatting to Sean now and will chase up my registry contacts on Monday for an update cause this is going to get nasty if they go the Adler path or want to confiscate them.
Baitlayer wrote:Just read through this thread with some interest.I have only one question.It seems clear that these weapons are being banned because the sight of them might scare the the public.My question.When will they ever see them? At home they are locked in a safe.In transit they are secured out of sight and at a range or hunting location they only likely to be seen by other LAFOs. who I doubt would be scared of them.
If this is not case then I can only assume that the relevant authorities feel that ownership of such a firearm will automatically have us wandering the streets and firing randomly at anything or anyone that moves.
Again, if they don't ever see them, how can they be scared by them?
Ian
Gaznazdiak wrote:"Nope, just vote below the line and put the majors and the greentatds last!"
Trouble is, that's still voting for established entities who have made preference deals and the same cunning stunts end up getting in anyway.
We need to stop voting for any of them, period. Voting only encourages the bastards.
juststarting wrote:16-18 this year, in USA, depends how you look at it.
Let's pause for a moment. A firearm was discharged 18 times in the last two months across schools in the USA.
At some point, it stops being a gun problem. There's just something deeply deeply wrong with mentality of those people. The kids, their parents, media, everything. Just really, really wrong and dark.