Ebay Muzzle Brakes

[scaredyet]

So how do we buy this muzzle brake I'm on my mobile and couldn't see a link to buy and how much to Australia

[bladeracer]

bladeracer, yeah, that's as far as it will go if i want it perfectly aligned... More twists, and it's on an angle. I am waiting for an after-market stock for the Tikka. Once I get that, I will take another look.

Curious. Will it still make two more revolutions or is it bottoming out before that?

[bladeracer]

So how do we buy this muzzle brake I'm on my mobile and couldn't see a link to buy and how much to Australia

Like this?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Heavy-Duty-308-TPI-Competition-Steel-Muzzle-Brake-Free-Crush-Washer-Accessories-/282629695273

[juststarting]

So how do we buy this muzzle brake I'm on my mobile and couldn't see a link to buy and how much to Australia

Google don't work on mobile? :p

[juststarting]

Curious. Will it still make two more revolutions or is it bottoming out before that?

It bottoms out before that, but I'll take a look when I pop it in a new stock.

[scaredyet]

The TT Terminator Brake for the CTR .308 is $366 shipped to Australia

[Rikta]

The TT Terminator Brake for the CTR .308 is $366 shipped to Australia

f*** me thats expensive, does it reload your gun and clean it for you as well as spot game? insane to pay so much

[scaredyet]

I'm after a muzzle brake for my tikka t3x CTR .308 what do you guys recommend and where to buy

Terminator TT, https://reloadingstudio.com/blog/tt-ter ... zzle-brake

I don't understand the 3mm gap you got.
5/8-24 thread is roughly 1mm thread pitch, so turn the brake two more revolutions and you'll have less than 1mm gap?
Does the brake bottom out against the muzzle?

The nut on the wrong way that's why there's a gap.

Have a look here on how it's meant to be mounted http://terminatorproducts.co.nz/tt-brake/

[juststarting]

Yep, does look like I have the locking nut the wrong way. Seems like this thread is getting noticed, I guess. Greg (owner) emailed about the same thing. Though, in my defence it looks just as good lol. Anyway, I'll flip it around over the next couple of days and see how we go. As always, most likely, operator error.

[bladeracer]

The TT Terminator Brake for the CTR .308 is $366 shipped to Australia

f*** me thats expensive, does it reload your gun and clean it for you as well as spot game? insane to pay so much

I was wondering if I was the only one thinking that is a ludicrous price for a muzzle brake
I would love to see a test of that thing against the sub-$20 Ebay ones to see if it's twenty times more effective.

[juststarting]

bladeracer, you're just as bad mate, with all them tactical aftermarket add-ons to your precious.

It's as expensive or as cheap as you think. If it's of value to you, then it is worth what you are willing to pay for it. Besides, you just can't put a price on happiness. And it makes me happy.

To answer the other question, whether "it reload your gun and clean it for you as well as spot game?" Don't be an idiot. Obviously, yes. I personally don't like the solvent that it uses, but it makes up in reloading consistency and game spotting.

[bladeracer]

bladeracer, you're just as bad mate, with all them tactical aftermarket add-ons to your precious.

It's as expensive or as cheap as you think. If it's of value to you, then it is worth what you are willing to pay for it. Besides, you just can't put a price on happiness. And it makes me happy.

To answer the other question, whether "it reload your gun and clean it for you as well as spot game?" Don't be an idiot. Obviously, yes. I personally don't like the solvent that it uses, but it makes up in reloading consistency and game spotting.

When I buy a peripheral I do so with the intention of mounting it on several rifles, so it's very easy to decide if I can justify the price. Would I be happy with $3660 worth of muzzle brakes sitting on ten rifles in my safe? Not bloody likely! I'd rather buy more rifles with that money

Tactical aftermarket add-ons?
Do you mean scopes and bipods?
I use a variety of add-ons to make my rifle better at the task I'm asking of it at the time.
I put flash hiders on to protect the muzzles, I don't much care what they look like as long as they keep the muzzle from getting plugged with mud. I've tried a few different designs in case I find one that does that job better than others.
I put lasers on when I'm changing the sighting system as it lets me zero without firing a shot.
I put bipods on so I can make more precise shots, and put my rifle down in Gippsland mud without it getting filthy while I clamber over a fence. I've also got numerous designs as I hope to find the ideal.
If I'm not using a bipod I might put a front grip on as it's more comfortable with the single-point sling.
I use brass catchers so I don't lose my brass and it stays clean.

If I had need of a rifle that was simply unshootable without a muzzle brake, then for sure I'd happily spend a grand on one to tame it. But I'd much more likely just load it back to tolerable levels or replace it with something more enjoyable to shoot. Brakes suck, but they do serve a practical purpose when they're required. I would never even consider putting one on for "tactical" asthetics.

[juststarting]

I think you're over complicating, I purchased it because I wanted it.

[Kiwi Greg]

Muzzle brakes do have a negative impact on your barrel life though, something that should be taken into account when fitting one.

I have never heard of this idea, can you please enlighten me ?

[bladeracer]

The one on ebay looks a really low quality made piece it even looks like it may just be cast. of course it would work as there not an overly complicated device to achieve some level of gain. Muzzle brakes do have a negative impact on your barrel life though, something that should be taken into account when fitting one.

By "quality" I assume you mean the finish?
The only relatively precise "machining" required is truing the face to the bore and cutting the thread.
Why would it matter if it were cast rather than machined?

[juststarting]

Cheap, eBay, made in China metal parts are generally horrible. Just bad manufacturing and material quality. Even stuff you buy from stores here, locally, like metal tools, that are made in China are bad. They snap and fracture. Nothing that requires durability, reliability or precision can be trusted if it's made in generic factory in China, from untrusted materials without solid QA process. Albeit, all my bipods are fantastic. But all tools like pliers, drill bits, etc are horrible. Some companies have very good quality stuff, made in China, but this is where they oversee the QA.

Overall, I am not attaching anything of low trust to my muzzle.

[Oldbloke]

My bet is they are all made in China for about $2. Just some are made to a spec for brand names.

Incredibly simple to make these days.

My point was that then the lgs wants $200 or what ever. Rip off. I would get one off eBay for $20.
For a simple item like this QA is far from critical.

[Rikta]

Cheap, eBay, made in China metal parts are generally horrible. Just bad manufacturing and material quality. Even stuff you buy from stores here, locally, like metal tools, that are made in China are bad. They snap and fracture. Nothing that requires durability, reliability or precision can be trusted if it's made in generic factory in China, from untrusted materials without solid QA process. Albeit, all my bipods are fantastic. But all tools like pliers, drill bits, etc are horrible. Some companies have very good quality stuff, made in China, but this is where they oversee the QA.

Overall, I am not attaching anything of low trust to my muzzle.

correct me if I am wrong, but all muzzle devices are made over-bore... given they cant be made congruent with the rifling and crown on the barrel they must be larger in diameter to allow for clear flight of the bullet, same as silencers etc. so given that only expanding gas comes in contact with the brake what is there really, aside from insane amounts of recoil on some massive magnums or wildcat rounds, that can break the brake? aside from dropping or hitting it...

[juststarting]

No idea, dude. Stress from recoil, doesn't have to be insane, just consistent. Alignment could be another big one or lose threads. I am really guessing here, I have no idea because I never used those, so I don't know.

What I have used is everything else, based on that experience, having plier handles snap, drill bit snap, tap and die kits having really bad workmanship compared to same items, but made in England, I just chose to stay clear of certain items.

Now, there's a bunch of stuff I am happy with, from China and we shop on fasttech, dx, aliexpress and many others all the time. Clothing and electronics, toys, etc. Quality is pretty good, service is excellent. However, when it comes to metal stuff, I just found it to be very bad quality and rather avoid that entirely.

[juststarting]

My bet is they are all made in China for about $2. Just some are made to a spec for brand names.

Incredibly simple to make these days.

I said exactly that in my previous post, no? Brand names have their own material QA and manufacturing QA standards. It's when you go generic factory and cheap, that's when you start hitting snags.

[Lorgar]

so given that only expanding gas comes in contact with the brake what is there really, aside from insane amounts of recoil on some massive magnums or wildcat rounds, that can break the brake?

The gas pressure is what will be relevant. These are rough numbers, but will give you an idea...

Peak chamber pressure from a .308 with a typical 165gr load will be somewhere in the neighbourhood of 58,000 psi.

Obviously as the bullet moves through the barrel, creating an increasing volume of space behind it, the pressure reduces. A quick bit of research would suggest that just before the bullet exits there muzzle of a 24" barrel you're looking at about 8,000 psi of contained pressure.

This would drop sharply once the bullet was moving away freely and no longer being restricted by the rifling but you're still talking about a significant amount of pressure being channelled through the first baffle of the brake. I dunno... maybe a split second peak of 5,000 psi? Honestly though that's a very rough guess and I could be wrong, it could be a lot lower.

Obviously it's manageable, as demonstrated by the fact there are a million people out there happily using brakes. Make a well designed brake using suitably strong material and it's fine.

If some knockoff merchant loosely copies a product they don't understand and has some fabrication place whip it up on the cheap using ??? metal, then who knows. I'm not saying this is the case for anyone in particular, but that would be the concern.

[bladeracer]

If it were pot metal I'd be concerned, but not steel, iron or aluminium.

[Wal]

Anyone know the legalities of buying accessories like muzzle brakes off ebay from international sellers?

I bought an Anderson Manufactured flash suppressor for my .223 from the US eBay and had no dramas getting it into Australia.

[juststarting]

Legit