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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by brett1868 » 15 Sep 2017, 11:04 pm

MTM 50cal ammo cans, cheap, water tight and a pair of 40mm padlocks secures them.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by chewbacca » 16 Sep 2017, 5:48 am

Thanks Brett1868. I was thinking Ammo Can too. Any thoughts on the plastic ones?
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Apollo » 16 Sep 2017, 7:58 am

Aren't all the MTM Ammo Cans Plastic.

I was given a "Zombie" AC50Z one free some time ago, never used it as it's not square, doesn't hold what I'd like with the tapered sides so back to the square metal tool box or two depending on how much ammo I need with me. Same thing with the plastic tool box, tapered sides and find one the right size to hold my smaller MTM Ammo Boxes.

It really doesn't matter, anything that can be locked will do the job legally for transport and/or home storage.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by chewbacca » 16 Sep 2017, 8:41 am

Thanks. I guess I won't buy a "safe" as such but more a lockable box
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Wylie27 » 16 Sep 2017, 8:53 am

brett1868 wrote:MTM 50cal ammo cans, cheap, water tight and a pair of 40mm padlocks secures them.


Two locks? That just sounds like money spent on a lock that I could spend on more ammo..
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 16 Sep 2017, 4:20 pm

This complies for Victoria. $10 Bunnings. Just add padlock of your choice

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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Pythonkeeper » 16 Sep 2017, 4:34 pm

I use these for home storage, though I got them elsewhere for $79 on special. I wouldn't go much bigger as when they are chockers full they become quite heavy, you can fit allot in them.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/rhino-610-x ... x_p6120223

For travelling I use plastic MTM ammo cans, can be had for around $20-$30 depending on size you buy.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Pythonkeeper » 16 Sep 2017, 4:45 pm

These supercheap ones go alright too, just wait till they come on special, usually two for $18.

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Produc ... yle/368928
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 16 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm

Both good. Big one for home small for travel.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by brett1868 » 16 Sep 2017, 8:51 pm

Wylie27 wrote:Two locks? That just sounds like money spent on a lock that I could spend on more ammo..


Only 4 locks on the primary ammo can at my bug out.... :D

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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Rikta » 16 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

Now you're talkin'
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by bullzeye » 23 Sep 2017, 9:00 am

I got the $8 toolbox from Bunnings and a $5 lock. Does the job for me.

Have a look at the NSW Police infosheet and website. Very clearly explained.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by chewbacca » 23 Sep 2017, 10:23 am

Ive been hearing whispers that the authorities are considering changing Ammo Storage laws and it may be along the lines of the only allowable storage medium for Ammo will be an Ammo Safe and that plastic/metal boxes won't be considered acceptable soon unless it's in transportation.
Has anyone heard this?
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Post by bullzeye » 27 Sep 2017, 10:40 am

Re NSW - I haven't heard this.

Who told you such whispers?
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 27 Sep 2017, 11:23 am

chewbacca wrote:Ive been hearing whispers that the authorities are considering changing Ammo Storage laws and it may be along the lines of the only allowable storage medium for Ammo will be an Ammo Safe and that plastic/metal boxes won't be considered acceptable soon unless it's in transportation.
Has anyone heard this?


Not going to happen. A safe to store ammo increases the risk of catastrophic event. Amma should be stored in a container designed to release gasses easily. That means LIGHT construction.
Don't believe me? Just look at what powder is stored in.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by bladeracer » 27 Sep 2017, 5:13 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Not going to happen. A safe to store ammo increases the risk of catastrophic event. Amma should be stored in a container designed to release gasses easily. That means LIGHT construction.
Don't believe me? Just look at what powder is stored in.


Already require a gun safe for ammo storage in WA. Ammo storage has to equal firearm storage security.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 27 Sep 2017, 6:18 pm

Then the cops don't understand explosives safety. Full stop.

To clarify. They might prevent a theft but cause an explosion when it could have been a small fire.

Rule 1 for explosives is never confine.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by No1Mk3 » 27 Sep 2017, 6:29 pm

G'day Oldbloke,
Are you trying to add common sense to Firearm Law? The best mathematician in the world can't get that equation to work!
It's like our storage, locked container in gunsafe #1 with ammo only suitable for guns in safe #2, and vice versa, is a STRICT no-no, but locked container sitting on TOP of safe, for anyone to pick up and waltz away with, Just fine and legal! Cheers.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by bladeracer » 27 Sep 2017, 6:29 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Then the cops don't understand explosives safety. Full stop.

To clarify. They might prevent a theft but cause an explosion when it could have been a small fire.

Rule 1 for explosives is never confine.


I agree, I was merely correcting your perception that it could never happen.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 27 Sep 2017, 8:14 pm

That's OK Bladeracer.

All I'm saying is if you confine the ammo it's less likely to vent more or less harmlessly if it ignites.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by juststarting » 29 Dec 2017, 11:15 pm

Alrighty, so time to revive this thread... VIC specific question.

Think of Mosin ammo spam cans (something like this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2015/10/01/4740116_01_7_62x54r_spam_can_440_rounds_s_640.jpg) . It has cartridges in it, but the thing is essentially a can, completely sealed and requires a special can opener or tools to open it.

So the questions is, does this qualify as:

(3) Any cartridge ammunition for the firearm must be stored in a locked container separate from the receptacle in which the firearm must be stored.?

For example, if I want to sit it on top of the safe, rather than wasting space in my ammo locker?
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by bladeracer » 29 Dec 2017, 11:25 pm

juststarting wrote:Alrighty, so time to revive this thread... VIC specific question.

Think of Mosin ammo spam cans (something like this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2015/10/01/4740116_01_7_62x54r_spam_can_440_rounds_s_640.jpg) . It has cartridges in it, but the thing is essentially a can, completely sealed and requires a special can opener or tools to open it.

So the questions is, does this qualify as:

(3) Any cartridge ammunition for the firearm must be stored in a locked container separate from the receptacle in which the firearm must be stored.?

For example, if I want to sit it on top of the safe, rather than wasting space in my ammo locker?


That is an interesting one :-)
I think you'll need a written answer from Firearms themselves.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by juststarting » 29 Dec 2017, 11:39 pm

Yeah, that's what I was thinking going to happen... :/
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by juststarting » 29 Dec 2017, 11:40 pm

Oooo also, how do I find the details (email) of my local firearms officer.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by sungazer » 30 Dec 2017, 7:20 am

I think a good lawyer would argue that it it is separate. It is not contained within the walls of the firearms container storage. There is nothing in the rules yet that sets a proximity.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by southeast varmiter » 30 Dec 2017, 7:24 am

Since when does locked mean secure. You can lock your ammo in a backpack as long as it’s locked.
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by marksman » 30 Dec 2017, 7:27 am

google Victorian firearms officer location list, its a pdf
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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by Oldbloke » 30 Dec 2017, 3:39 pm

JS, is this a test of some sort?

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Re: Ammo Storage

Post by juststarting » 30 Dec 2017, 3:48 pm

Sounds like it, doesn't it. But no, just curious.
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Post by marksman » 30 Dec 2017, 4:30 pm

I'm curious as well
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