andreweden wrote:http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/police-investigate-qld-child-shooting/news-story/2d586ec144d135ab8b5602d953d58f21
What should happen to the ‘LAFO’ that didn’t secure his kit?
bladeracer wrote:andreweden wrote:http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/police-investigate-qld-child-shooting/news-story/2d586ec144d135ab8b5602d953d58f21
What should happen to the ‘LAFO’ that didn’t secure his kit?
Maybe because there's no discussion possible.
He's an incredibly lax and ignorant gun owner that makes us all look like reckless morons.
No intelligent person drives around suburbia with a loaded rifle in the car.
I'd rather talk about the guy that had his 119 firearms confiscated - 109 of them unregistered.
andreweden wrote:bladeracer wrote:andreweden wrote:http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/police-investigate-qld-child-shooting/news-story/2d586ec144d135ab8b5602d953d58f21
What should happen to the ‘LAFO’ that didn’t secure his kit?
Maybe because there's no discussion possible.
He's an incredibly lax and ignorant gun owner that makes us all look like reckless morons.
No intelligent person drives around suburbia with a loaded rifle in the car.
I'd rather talk about the guy that had his 119 firearms confiscated - 109 of them unregistered.
So 10 unregistered firearms is ok?
It’s like saying he was only .08 at the rbt and he’s a good bloke, so give him a pass.
andreweden wrote:So what point are you trying to make?
What do you think should happen?
andreweden wrote:So what point are you trying to make?
What do you think should happen?
hharry06@gmail.com wrote:Definitely authorities need to throw the book at him for a number of reasons, but most importantly to show that storage laws exist for reasons and it is the LAFOs accountability to comply. Consequnces await for non compliance.
bladeracer wrote:hharry06@gmail.com wrote:Definitely authorities need to throw the book at him for a number of reasons, but most importantly to show that storage laws exist for reasons and it is the LAFOs accountability to comply. Consequnces await for non compliance.
My understanding is it has nothing to do with storage as he had the rifle in his ute...loaded.
bladeracer wrote:hharry06@gmail.com wrote:Definitely authorities need to throw the book at him for a number of reasons, but most importantly to show that storage laws exist for reasons and it is the LAFOs accountability to comply. Consequnces await for non compliance.
My understanding is it has nothing to do with storage as he had the rifle in his ute...loaded.
hharry06@gmail.com wrote:I'm referring to the original OP article, clearly non-compliant storage of registered firearm
bladeracer wrote:hharry06@gmail.com wrote:I'm referring to the original OP article, clearly non-compliant storage of registered firearm
I wonder when his last storage inspection was...
bladeracer wrote:bladeracer wrote:hharry06@gmail.com wrote:Definitely authorities need to throw the book at him for a number of reasons, but most importantly to show that storage laws exist for reasons and it is the LAFOs accountability to comply. Consequnces await for non compliance.
My understanding is it has nothing to do with storage as he had the rifle in his ute...loaded.
I can't find the reference to the rifle being in a ute now, bugger. I may be mistaken in that detail.
hharry06@gmail.com wrote:bladeracer wrote:hharry06@gmail.com wrote:I'm referring to the original OP article, clearly non-compliant storage of registered firearm
I wonder when his last storage inspection was...
The police are not accountable for irresponsible owner, storage compliance 100% lies with accountable with owner. Due to his incompetence, a young innocent boy is in a serious condition. There is simply no excuse for such disregard to storage laws. And the grandfathers excuse trying to blame the grandchild also shows his incompetence on the matter as well.
andreweden wrote:I’m just sick of people making excuses for some violations and wanting the book thrown at others yet all along touting the poor LAFO get all this schtick from cops/politicians etc. If you want to tout this idea of a LAFO, it’s all or nothing, not just the laws you agree with. Even suggesting some old bloke with 100 firearms not stored correctly or not registered should get some leeway just because they are collectibles and he wasn’t hurting anyone is bulls**t.
When we claim in any way that it should be ok to bend the laws that already exist, it is in itself the reason that consideration isn’t given to changing the existing laws to make things easier for us. Particularly when it’s the simple stuff like registering and securely storing firearms we already have!
juststarting wrote:It's almost as if OP is fishing for a specific response about something.
What response are you looking for?
bladeracer wrote:juststarting wrote:It's almost as if OP is fishing for a specific response about something.
What response are you looking for?
Now we know
He didn't want to know why we weren't talking about it, he wanted to know why we weren't up in arms about the poor bastard being persecuted for simply neglecting to keep his firearms away from children, hopefully we've answered his question
andreweden wrote:bladeracer wrote:juststarting wrote:It's almost as if OP is fishing for a specific response about something.
What response are you looking for?
Now we know
He didn't want to know why we weren't talking about it, he wanted to know why we weren't up in arms about the poor bastard being persecuted for simply neglecting to keep his firearms away from children, hopefully we've answered his question
You really don’t know s**t, but if you think you do, have fun with that.
bladeracer wrote:Find me any firearm owner that doesn't believe this guy deserves everything they can throw at him.
andreweden wrote:bladeracer wrote:juststarting wrote:It's almost as if OP is fishing for a specific response about something.
What response are you looking for?
Now we know
He didn't want to know why we weren't talking about it, he wanted to know why we weren't up in arms about the poor bastard being persecuted for simply neglecting to keep his firearms away from children, hopefully we've answered his question
You really don’t know s**t, but if you think you do, have fun with that.
andreweden wrote:
People on here have an opinion on African teens in Melbourne to muzzle brakes to whether or not a certain caliber is any good yet suddenly silent on something that will nearly certainly be used as more grist for the mill against some commonsense changes to the laws we currently have. Why?? Makes no sense to fob off the question.
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andreweden wrote:The attitude is you thinking you have a clue about me. You think you have me summed up, that is your arrogance right there.
People on here have an opinion on African teens in Melbourne to muzzle brakes to whether or not a certain caliber is any good yet suddenly silent on something that will nearly certainly be used as more grist for the mill against some commonsense changes to the laws we currently have. Why?? Makes no sense to fob off the question.
Its so much easier to call me a troll than answer the question and throw in red herrings about other cases.
Daddybang wrote:The fact a firearm is left where a six year old can have access to it..
There's really no discussion to have.
andreweden wrote:Not even the slightest bit upset.
Completely at a loss why bollocks that is nothing more than piss and vinegar gets so much attention and yet things that directly impact the sport get ignored. And while that keeps happening, the sport we enjoy is doomed to be regulated out of existence.