Bismuth

[bigpete]

Anyone know where to get bismuth shot within Australia?

[Gaznazdiak]

http://www.gunco.com.au/NIO1274/ELEY-VI ... 5PK/pd.php

[bladeracer]

http://www.gunco.com.au/NIO1274/ELEY-VIP-BISMUTH-12G-32GR-4-25PK/pd.php

$4 a round!
Is Bismuth "duck kryptonite" or something

[Gaznazdiak]

Greeny aphrodisiac

[bigpete]

I'm after just the shot...

[Oldbloke]

Why mate?

[bigpete]

To shoot ducks with out of a muzzleloader

[No1_49er]

To shoot ducks with out of a muzzleloader

It may seem to be a silly question, but, why the need to shoot Bismuth out of your muzzle-loader?
It's quite reasonable to say that since the advent of muzzle-loading firearms, they used lead, as do most modern day shooters.
Is it a personal desire, or is there some other reason that we are unaware of?

[bigpete]

Because it's illegal to use lead for duck shooting ? Thought that was pretty much applicable throughout Australia

[marksman]

dont quote me but it may be worth your while ringing the delwp as I think you may be legal with lead shot in a muzzle loader
I'm not 100% sure of it but I did hear it years ago for victoria, may be worth looking into
what was said to me was that if you wanted to use a damascus twist steel barrel you could use lead instead of steel legally
it was a very reliable source that told me may be ****** but it's worth a phone call

[bigpete]

I'm not in Victoria,but maybe it is worth ringing about. All I know is absolutely everything I've read so far says only non toxic shot to be used

[Gaznazdiak]

https://www.rotometals.com/bismuth-shot/

[marksman]

I'm not in Victoria,but maybe it is worth ringing about. All I know is absolutely everything I've read so far says only non toxic shot to be used

I did hear a few years ago and like some laws they just get forgotten about after time, may be worth a ring if you get onto the right person

as far as using bismuth goes IMO it is like hitting the ducks with thor's hammer way better than lead just very expensive
I have heard of blokes getting together to buy it in together so the cost isn't so much for postage

[bladeracer]

I'm not in Victoria,but maybe it is worth ringing about. All I know is absolutely everything I've read so far says only non toxic shot to be used

Steel in a shot cup, or use the copper-plated BB's made for air-rifles?
What is your bore size?

[bladeracer]

https://www.rotometals.com/bismuth-shot/

Nice find Gaz.
US$150 for 4.5kg, and US$80 shipping.
About A$320 delivered, or A$70/kg - $2 per one-ounce load.
Outrageous still, but not out of the question

[bigpete]

Damn,I was about to say thanks gaz,but now I'm thinking theres no way in hell I can afford that...

[bladeracer]

Damn,I was about to say thanks gaz,but now I'm thinking theres no way in hell I can afford that...

Well, the one-pound bag is US$41.50 delivered, only gives you fifteen or sixteen one-ounce loads for A$60. Which is virtually the same as buying the ammunition here and dumping the shot out.

[bladeracer]

How much does your butcher sell ducks for Pete, might be worth just buying one

[bigpete]

I'm not in Victoria,but maybe it is worth ringing about. All I know is absolutely everything I've read so far says only non toxic shot to be used

Steel in a shot cup, or use the copper-plated BB's made for air-rifles?
What is your bore size?

Definitely no steel,shot up or not,in my antique. And from what I've read the copper plated bbs are hard as steel shot anyway

[bigpete]

How much does your butcher sell ducks for Pete, might be worth just buying one

[bigpete]

Might have to look into buying raw bismuth and making it myself....I've made swan shot before...or just buy myself the pedersoli 10g I want that's steel proofed....lol

[bladeracer]

Might have to look into buying raw bismuth and making it myself....I've made swan shot before...or just buy myself the pedersoli 10g I want that's steel proofed....lol

I don't know how much more complicated it is to make bismuth shot, but if it's like lead shot it'll be around the same price for the raw material as the shot costs.

Personally, I'd keep buying firearms until you find one that works...and then keep buying more of them!

[bigpete]

Ha ha,I'm at the point of having to upgrade security if I buy too many more

[bladeracer]

Ha ha,I'm at the point of having to upgrade security if I buy too many more

Passed that point thirteen rifles back

[bigpete]

Yeah,I think 17 is enough...for now...got a virtually new rossi rio grande 3030 I really want to get rid of yet...

[duncan61]

I have $170 CBC that will shoot 3inch magnums with copper plated 4 shot.does the job nicely but I get the go your own way thinking

[Oldbloke]

dont quote me but it may be worth your while ringing the delwp as I think you may be legal with lead shot in a muzzle loader
I'm not 100% sure of it but I did hear it years ago for victoria, may be worth looking into
what was said to me was that if you wanted to use a damascus twist steel barrel you could use lead instead of steel legally
it was a very reliable source that told me may be ****** but it's worth a phone call

I know your in SA but that's that's my understanding for Vic too.

[bladeracer]

dont quote me but it may be worth your while ringing the delwp as I think you may be legal with lead shot in a muzzle loader
I'm not 100% sure of it but I did hear it years ago for victoria, may be worth looking into
what was said to me was that if you wanted to use a damascus twist steel barrel you could use lead instead of steel legally
it was a very reliable source that told me may be ****** but it's worth a phone call

I know your in SA but that's that's my understanding for Vic too.

Can't find anything for SA, but definitely correct in Victoria - come and visit us Pete!
http://www.gma.vic.gov.au/laws/hunting-laws/duck-hunting-laws/equipment-requirements-for-duck-hunting

[bigpete]

Hmmm,very interesting....maybe old gerty can get another run at ducks before grandpa passes away....

[bigpete]

Ok,seems SA is non toxic shot only.....bugger