Dickinson T1000 Synthetic

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Dickinson T1000 Synthetic

Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 10:29 am

I picked up some new toys this morning, one being a straight-pull 12ga. shotgun.
I have to say, my first impression is great, it looks and feels like a very nice gun. 28", 3" chamber, five chokes, 4+1 capacity, 3.18kg empty, virtually the same weight as my 30" Stoeger Condor.

I think I'll struggle running the bolt from the shoulder but I may be able to train the muscles to lift my arm up, and push forward enough to reach the bolt handle, it's a few inches forward of most bolt-actions.

Now I need to work out the choke threads and find a muzzle brake for it.
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Re: Dickinson T1000 Synthetic

Post by Wombat » 09 Jan 2019, 10:42 am

That looks as though it should be useful , though I dont see any great advantage over a lever action.

On another note I thought the T1000 used a 10ga 1887.
Makes you wonder if people research their product names before using them. I had a mate show me the new audio setup on a device his work was developing, they had named the feature as "Atmos", which in Dr Who is a tech device that was used to kill most of the population.
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Post by Cooper » 09 Jan 2019, 10:42 am

Interested to see how it goes! You going to shoot slugs out of it?
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Post by Urastus » 09 Jan 2019, 10:51 am

If I was after a shotty for hunting I'd get this because I'm guessing you've done your homework. It sounds light for such a long barrel. Could you tell me what you want to use it for?
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 11:02 am

Cooper wrote:Interested to see how it goes! You going to shoot slugs out of it?


I'll shoot anything in it, I like to experiment :-)
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 11:13 am

Urastus wrote:If I was after a shotty for hunting I'd get this because I'm guessing you've done your homework. It sounds light for such a long barrel. Could you tell me what you want to use it for?


No research whatsoever :-)
My dealer offered it to me at a ridiculous price, so I said yes. It occurred to me to find out something about them yesterday so I looked at Cleaver...and realised my dealer's price is even stupider than I originally thought - he must _really_ like me! I figured it must be a secondhand one he'd traded, but nope, still boxed. I was already buying the Ruger Precision Rimfire in .22LR, and an air-rifle, and he said he'd throw the Dickinson into the deal for bugger all.

I mainly just want a single-barrel so I can see how well muzzle brakes work on shotguns because of my shoulder damage. If it's effective then I'll make one for the double-gun.

BTW, he has a few other pieces to sell still, some shotguns (I didn't take much notice as I don't like shotguns, but I could ask him), and a couple of very pretty Marlins, the 336 Texan Deluxe in .30-30, and the 1895 Gold Elk in .45-70. I do still want a .30-30 and a .45-70 myself, but both of these are far too pretty to take bush, for me.
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 11:41 am

Urastus wrote:Could you tell me what you want to use it for?


Nothing specific, I don't like shotguns much, they just don't make sense to me. With slugs and heavy buck, they're great on larger game, but lack the range and precision of a rifle, with ammunition several times heavier, more expensive, and more bulky. And I don't like shooting animals with the smaller shot sizes. If you can't hit your rabbit or fox with a 40gn .22 bullet, why would swapping to 150 3gn pellets be a better choice? You're giving up killing ability and range in exchange for being able to at least hit the target? If you manage to put 10% of the shot charge into the target (unlikely), you're delivering similar mass, but spherical pellets hemorrhage velocity so quickly, you have less penetration and energy anyway. I'm sure most birds drown rather than die from pellet injuries. For smaller birds, like Quail, starlings, and such, shotguns work very well, but it still seems like an extraordinary level of overkill to me :-) To me, if your target is running, then you've already screwed up the hunt. Go home and do a better job next time.

Don't get me wrong though, I have shot many hundreds of birds with shotguns as they were the most efficient way of dropping large numbers quickly, then finishing them off with the .22LR. To hunt on many properties when I was a kid, I basically had a list of all the problems the landowner wanted controlled, so if I was going out for foxes or rabbits, I also took a gun to deal with starlings and galahs. I'm sure I took an occasional crow with a gun, but I always preferred taking crows with a rifle, it's just a cleaner kill.

I bought the Stoeger primarily to have a go at Simulated Game, and maybe some clays, but my shoulder just has no chance of coping with dozens of rounds of 12ga. I enjoyed clays when I was a kid in Army Cadets. If I can reduce the amount of pain and injury from the shotgun, then at least I can realistically consider trying both of those sports.
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Post by Urastus » 09 Jan 2019, 1:06 pm

From what I've read - 45-70 is a big thump in the shoulder. I always try things left handed. I still haven't got my rifle ready, but I've been shooting left and right with handguns. I thought I'd do the same with the rifle - at the least it will be more elegant if I can only use the left side of something for support while trying to remain mostly hidden :) It's nice to have that option. I started left side in whitewater so that I could always roll up on the downstream side, and then continued with manual labour (axe, shovel etc). It also keeps your muscles balanced (now I'm laughing). Mostly it comes in handy because I often have some sort of injury and have to swap around anyway.
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Post by Urastus » 09 Jan 2019, 1:08 pm

Left shoulder for big bangs, right shoulder for little ones :) And I was curious if you had a hunting reason for getting that gun. I get that you're an enthusiast and don't necessarily need a hunting reason to own any firearm - you might as well enjoy life if you can :lol:
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 1:32 pm

Urastus wrote:From what I've read - 45-70 is a big thump in the shoulder. I always try things left handed. I still haven't got my rifle ready, but I've been shooting left and right with handguns. I thought I'd do the same with the rifle - at the least it will be more elegant if I can only use the left side of something for support while trying to remain mostly hidden :) It's nice to have that option. I started left side in whitewater so that I could always roll up on the downstream side, and then continued with manual labour (axe, shovel etc). It also keeps your muscles balanced (now I'm laughing). Mostly it comes in handy because I often have some sort of injury and have to swap around anyway.


I would like to be ambidextrous with longarms, but other than just playing around, I just can't make it work. Handguns are not too big a problem, but I just have no left-handed dexterity. I gave up writing in 1990 due to damaging my hand, and although I can make a scrawl with my left hand, it's in no way useful - even I can't read it. I can't even use a hammer, screwdriver or spanners left-handed :-)
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Re: Dickinson T1000 Synthetic

Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 1:41 pm

Urastus wrote:Left shoulder for big bangs, right shoulder for little ones :) And I was curious if you had a hunting reason for getting that gun. I get that you're an enthusiast and don't necessarily need a hunting reason to own any firearm - you might as well enjoy life if you can :lol:


Left shoulder would be nice, but I find the shotgun is more of a "hand eye co-ordination" deal than the rifles, which just makes it even more difficult :-)
You make a very good point though, so I will endeavour to put in some serious left-shoulder practice.
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Post by Ed9362 » 09 Jan 2019, 2:20 pm

Wombat wrote:That looks as though it should be useful , though I dont see any great advantage over a lever action.

On another note I thought the T1000 used a 10ga 1887.
Makes you wonder if people research their product names before using them. I had a mate show me the new audio setup on a device his work was developing, they had named the feature as "Atmos", which in Dr Who is a tech device that was used to kill most of the population.



im no expert but im pretty sure the T1000 was the molten metal guy, arnie and his 10G 1887 was T800
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 2:34 pm

Wombat wrote:That looks as though it should be useful , though I dont see any great advantage over a lever action.

On another note I thought the T1000 used a 10ga 1887.
Makes you wonder if people research their product names before using them. I had a mate show me the new audio setup on a device his work was developing, they had named the feature as "Atmos", which in Dr Who is a tech device that was used to kill most of the population.


No, I don't see any advantage to either of the designs over a double myself :-)
But lever-actions are a fair bit of work to simply extract a case and feed a fresh round into an action, and with complicated mechanics to do it, I prefer a bolt-action myself.

I'm thinking you're a bit of a sci-fi watcher, which I'm not , so I'm missing the reference :-) I love Doctor Who, but only up until Peter Davison. I did see an episode a few years ago, with a female prime minister who was an alien? I read Matt Lucas's book a few weeks ago and have been meaning to download the episodes he did, but the interest has not been strong enough to make it happen yet :-) I did watch The Hand of Fear a couple weeks ago though.

I was in the post office yesterday and noticed their scale was an "AS-30" model, all I could think of was ADI shotgun powder :-)
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Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 2:36 pm

Ed9362 wrote:
Wombat wrote:On another note I thought the T1000 used a 10ga 1887.



im no expert but im pretty sure the T1000 was the molten metal guy, arnie and his 10G 1887 was T800


Now I get the reference! Predator ;-)
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Post by Ed9362 » 09 Jan 2019, 3:54 pm

lol swing and a miss,

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Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jan 2019, 3:57 pm

Predator? Right!!!! It was thecrobot from Paul...geeez.

Have you thought about reduced loads for clays? My kids use lowest recoil and love it.
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Post by Wombat » 09 Jan 2019, 4:21 pm

Ed9362 wrote:
Wombat wrote:That looks as though it should be useful , though I dont see any great advantage over a lever action.

On another note I thought the T1000 used a 10ga 1887.
Makes you wonder if people research their product names before using them. I had a mate show me the new audio setup on a device his work was developing, they had named the feature as "Atmos", which in Dr Who is a tech device that was used to kill most of the population.



im no expert but im pretty sure the T1000 was the molten metal guy, arnie and his 10G 1887 was T800

You are correct :drinks:
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Post by Goose#24 » 09 Jan 2019, 6:12 pm

Nice work mate! I have one also and I love mine! Easy to work the bolt with speed and what I would say low recoil, Can shoot it all day no problems! Hope you enjoy and happy shooting!
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