C-More Tactical M26 Shotgun

[perentie]

More internet searching found this.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallar ... rms_id=697

[perentie]

Well that was fun.
Took it up the range this morning after finally getting the Saiga mag to latch properly. Took a bit of file and try but eventually got it.
Reading on some forums these mags need hand fitting to some Saigas as well.
No sights yet but put a box of birdshot through it with mo malfunctions or miss feeds from either mag.
Just ordered two more.
Also ordered the Vortex SPARC AR sight for it.
Even though the mag followers are different heights, when a shell is in there is not so much difference, and surprisingly they both feed OK. The hook on the bolt picks them up.

C-More mag 01 by [url=https://flic.kr/p/2hsgSMr]C-More mag 02 by [url=https://flic.kr/p/2hskyS4]C-More mag03 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/141809689@N05/

Its an awkward thing to carry though and I am thinking of getting one of those top handles that clamp to the rail. Its got a rear point for a sling so I need a front point as well. Not sure how to do that yet.

[perentie]

I bought a sling swivel for the top rail. Much like the one you show and use the rear point for the other end.
With the sling over the shoulder on the LHS and shottie held by the pistol grip and left hand on the bolt it can be worked fast shooting from the hip.
The red dot is high enough the sling swivel does not bother me. Yes they are hard to carry as the mag is at the point of balance so I ordered one of those rail carry handles as well. Should be here tomorrow.
Front sling swivel is well forward but enough room for a laser for hip shooting. Just for fun.
I had some Lyman slug loads I made up for the Adler with its rifled choke. They shot well in that but wont group with this and its IC choke.
Bought several 5 shot packs of slugs from Rebel. Different makes and types . $60 freight by Courier to get them but no option. See how they go next week.
I am in QLD.

[perentie]

We had pistol this morning so after we finished I used a couple of old targets to try out the slugs I bought.
First were my Lyman slug reloads that shot well with the Adler rifled choke. They were no good here. Three in the black and one OS with a circle around them.
Next the S&B special slug.
No good either. The one at the top keyholed.
Next Federal Power shok FPS with a triangle around them. No good either.
Next Federal Vital shok I was getting worried but these came through. FVS one above the other. Good windage but I think I was holding loose. You have to hang on to these things as they have some punch.

slug 01 by Two left from the pack of five, so hung up a new target to just be sure.
Tight hold this time. All these are at 50 yards. Brought the sight down 6 clicks and needs a couple right but good consistant windage.
Two touching. That will do me
If I can get the Lyman pellets to do the same I will be happy.
Now these are with the factory IC choke not rifled. If it keeps shooting like that I wont bother with a rifled choke after all.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2hxzwdi]slug 02 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/141809689@N05/]

[birdmanoz]

Does the gas recoil stock make much of a difference to felt recoil on these things?

[perentie]

You bet. Especially with those commercial slug loads. It still gives a big push back but no pain on the shoulder.. I dont think I could take many rounds if it was not for the shock absorbing butt stock as the gun is very light.

[Blr243]

Perentie. It’s good that you post your results with different ammo. It helps point me in the right direction. I’m trying some slug groups on Wednesday on my hunting trip

[birdmanoz]

I’d buy one but vicpol LRD have told me in writing on several occasions that this shotgun is under review for reclassification because of its appearance. The effectively warned me not to buy it. I\this has been going on for 6 months and they won’t give me a straight answer regarding reclassification so I lodged an FOI request still waiting on info.

[Blr243]

How does a shotgun look scary in a bag inside a vehicle on its way to the range ?

[birdmanoz]

How does a shotgun look scary in a bag inside a vehicle on its way to the range ?

Exactly. Same BS in almost every state and its probably the law that makes the least sense. I think the reason for the appearance rules is just that they don't want younger kids thinking firearms are "cool". So they are trying to ensure we use as much old school timber and design as possible. The problem is the world has changed and polymers,features, cooling vents, rails etc all make firearms more functional for all purposes including hunting and sports shooting. I have a DTA SRS and its a great precision sport rifle and potentially great hunting rifle. The best equipment these days is often used in some military applications. Mainly because its durable and well tested.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Looks like Victoria is thinking about banning this!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=y ... G9haDYUngg

[TassieTiger]

Same in Tas...LGS said no point them getting these in. Whilst they remain undefined, Appearance laws are insane. There was also some talk about the recoil absorbing butt not meeting certain interpretations as well...

[MontyShooter]

Kinda weird as it looks virtually identical to the modified berika which was only just approved.

[StraightWhiteMale]

I'm glad QLD does not have appearance laws. But that does not mean they always won't.

These shoties cost $3500. Nobody on a cat D will buy them when they can get pump and semi auto. So if Vic and Tas ban these then the owners only chance of getting some money back will be to sell them to someone in QLD, SA or NT.

It just makes no sense. You can buy a Berika or a Warick down in Vic but not this? I really hope the owners of these firearms fight this and win.

[mickhead]

Kinda weird as it looks virtually identical to the modified berika which was only just approved.

Do not be silly. It looks nothing like a Berika. Berikas look soft and cuddly like nerf guns, and will not attract attention thank you.

[MontyShooter]

Do not be silly. It looks nothing like a Berika. Berikas look soft and cuddly like nerf guns, and will not attract attention thank you.

All the attention on these 12g guns is keeping the heat off my warwick.

[StraightWhiteMale]

All the attention on these 12g guns is keeping the heat off my warwick.

You could make the argument in court that by buying Warwick you are supporting local buisness.

[birdmanoz]

Warwick was smart in designing the WFA1 in consultation with vicpol several years ago. So vicpol can’t easily turn around and ban it because I believe they had input into its design.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Would be nice if Aus police and even the army had a policy of only buying Aus made weapons. Getting the local firearm industry growing will not only create more jobs but get the country thinking more in a pro gun mindset.

[BigKev74]

Hey guys, anyone have more specific reasons as to why this one is banned in NSW? It seems like we can get the black ops now, but not this one. It'd have to be something to do with the stock right? Or it it becuase of other cosmetic appearances?

[PorkEatingCrusader]

Hey guys, anyone have more specific reasons as to why this one is banned in NSW? It seems like we can get the black ops now, but not this one. It'd have to be something to do with the stock right? Or it it becuase of other cosmetic appearances?

I'm not sure but I know the 10 round mags for the Berika are illegal in NSW. Its only a cat A but they wont allow 10 round mags down there.

https://www.thebarn.net.au/Products/Ber ... zine/84674


The 10 round mags look hell sick compared to the 5.

[TassieTiger]

I know this is not NSW but thought might be of use / laugh to others.
Tas appearance laws ban:
The following firearms have been assessed and have been deemed not to fall within the provisions of Schedule 1, item 6 of the Act – (banned on appearance)
Thompson/Center S&W Long Range Rifle Detachable Box Magazine – (category B firearm)
Ruger Charger Tactical (Synthetic) Pistol semi auto 22 Long Rifle – (category H firearm)
Ruger – Precision – (category B firearm)
Desert Tactical Arms – SRS-A1 – (category B firearm)
Tikka – T3 & T3X TAC A-1 – (category B firearm)
Accuracy International – Artic Winter – (category B firearm)
Accuracy International – AX308 & AX338 – (category B firearm)
Howa – Tactical 1500 Varmint (AKA the Howa Chassis Rifle) – (category B firearm)
Howa – APC (Aussie Precision Chassis) – (category B firearm)
C-More Competition M26 Sporting Shotgun – bolt action 12 gauge shotgun – (category A firearm)
PWS T3 Tactical Rifle – bolt action rifle, in 22LR calibre – (category A firearm)
Ruger Precision Rimfire Rifle- bolt action rifle in 22LR calibre – (category A firearm)
Savage Model 10 Ashbury Rifle – bolt action rifle in 223rem, 308win, 6.5 creedmoor, 300 winmag, 338 lapua mag – (category B firearm)
Savage Model 10 BA Stealth Rifle – bolt action rifle in 223rem, 308win, 6.5 creedmoor, 300 winmag, 338 lapua mag – (category B firearm)
Savage Model 110 BA Stealth Rifle – bolt action rifle in 223rem, 308win, 6.5 creedmoor, 300 winmag, 338 lapua mag – (category B firearm)
Ritter & Stark SLX Rifle– bolt action rifle in 6.5 creedmore, 308 win, 300 winmag, 338 lapua mag – (category B firearm)
Ruger Mini 14 Target – semi auto rifle in 223rem, 5.56nato – (category D firearm)
Saiga M12 shotgun – semi auto shotgun in 12 gauge – (category C firearm)

The following firearms have been assessed and have been deemed to fall within the provisions of Schedule 1, item 6 of the Act and are therefore prohibited –
Ruger SR556VT
Ruger SR762
Franklin Armory F17X
Warwick Firearms – WFA1
Australian Automatic Arms Semi-automatic pistol
Australian Automatic Arms Semi-automatic rifle
Smith & Wesson – M&P 15/22
Grand Power Stribog SP9 Pistol
CZ–UB Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Pistol
Remington R-25 Rifle
Ruger SR556VT with aftermarket Thordsen stock
Ruger SR762 with aftermarket Thordsen stock
Ruger Mini 30
Winchester M14
Ruger SR22

[PorkEatingCrusader]

I'm so happy QLD has none of this silly appearance devil worship nonsense.

What about mags tas tiger? That link I posted above states 10round mags for cat A are banned in Tasmania?

[TassieTiger]

Yeah - 5+1 is max down here...

[PorkEatingCrusader]

Yeah - 5+1 is max down here...

Because that 6th round in the magazine instantly turns you into a serial killer. Makes perfect sense to ban them.

Sorry mate. Hopefully one day the polies can change.

[TassieTiger]

It is what it is mate - as frustrating as it can be, we either learn to live within our puppet masters confines or leave...and most of us don’t have the ability to easily relocate to the greener grass that may / may not be greener.

[sungazer]

There are some pretty normal type rifles in that list Tassie. FFS a Howa 1500 in a Chassis. I bet it includes any rifle really that could be put into any MDT chassis Put an adapter onto a 7615 and it would turn into a black ops killer. I spent a small fortune on bits and pieces for mine and think I actually like it in its plain clothes with the Wilson combat sights. Perhaps a rail with a low power scope. I thought about a red dot but most are 2 MOA and that coves up a lot of the target if you are getting fussy on trying to hit something in the same place twice.

[TassieTiger]

It’s crazy. The tikka tac a1 ffs...?
The reason I know of this list was because I called up before committing to the MDT chassis and was told if it’s not specifically on that list then it’s currently okay...so to me, that almost takes it a step further - because it’s not even solely about the appearance - but it seems as if the name of the rifle impacts scoring as well...

[perentie]

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I have been trying to get a Round Ball load to shoot with this. The IC choke bugs me that I cant change it for anything.
I bit the bullet yesterday and reamed and tapped the muzzle for the Browning Invector Choke system.Gives me more options to play with.

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This is the Carlson Tactical Breecher choke. Has a bit more choke than the IC that was on there.
Loaded up some RB in new hulls and will try them out later , next trip to the Range.

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[8x57]

Look forward to seeing the results