Was the Miroku under the five year warranty and if so why did you not receive a refund or a new gun?TassieTiger wrote:I bought a miroku as first clay gun, 2 months later, it was...loose and...I got $300 for it after buying it for 1800.
I bought an ATA...5 year warranty, select barrel/trig, 5 chokes and tool, fired ejector (shoot one barrel, will only eject fired), very well put together (cross hashed on metal to hold oil), hard case etc...balanced, points fast...
Ive shot some very expensive 12g - they feel nice, look nice, but ultimately they do nothing better for $15-$20k.
Downsides.
Barrel blueing is a little thin and scratches.
The timber foreend is not always made from same timber as stock and as a result fit is not perfect.
Umm...
For the $$$, features and warranty, it’s a good thing.
av1 wrote:Was the Miroku under the five year warranty and if so why did you not receive a refund or a new gun?TassieTiger wrote:I bought a miroku as first clay gun, 2 months later, it was...loose and...I got $300 for it after buying it for 1800.
I bought an ATA...5 year warranty, select barrel/trig, 5 chokes and tool, fired ejector (shoot one barrel, will only eject fired), very well put together (cross hashed on metal to hold oil), hard case etc...balanced, points fast...
Ive shot some very expensive 12g - they feel nice, look nice, but ultimately they do nothing better for $15-$20k.
Downsides.
Barrel blueing is a little thin and scratches.
The timber foreend is not always made from same timber as stock and as a result fit is not perfect.
Umm...
For the $$$, features and warranty, it’s a good thing.
My Miroku MK70 is six years old and fired thousands of rounds and is still tight, so what caused your gun to be loose and only worth $300 after only two months of use.
linkoln wrote:I don't have any personal experience with them but one of my next guns will be a Akkar Churchill 12g XM12 20" Ejector Synthetic.
TassieTiger wrote:Good advice above.
I started reading re double discharge and I admit to having a laugh out loud moment.
Imagine being on the line and aiming at one and you knew you missed but the clay blew up anyway ? You’d probably get away with it - what the hell was that ? What? That boom ? I dunno, overcharge maybe, quickly replace both cartridges lol.
Banned manufacture? Ummm, no. Miroku/Browning being the major ongoing Japanese maker, for the global market...Farmerpete wrote:Old Turkish guns are good new ones can be hit and miss,
My advice get an older skb Japanese made they used to contract for Ithaca and rebadged them for the us and sold them as an skb in oz
Skb moved to Turkey after Japan banned all manufacture of guns and became cheap crud, avoid their new ones
mchughcb wrote:I have two turkish shotguns. Both 20g. Here is my side by side. It love it. Its a proper little game gun.
Farmerpete wrote:Ok so they didn't "ban" manufacturing they just banned exporting them. They reversed the decision in 2014 but how many companies stayed in business after that decision was made.
It's the same as Bidens plan for gun control in the USA he's not planning on banning them he's planning on taxing them so much the average person couldn't afford to buy one.
marksman wrote:its a bit overkill for some goats, in fact probably anything but buff in the neck with only using slugs
but it's a perfect setup for home defence
av1 wrote:marksman wrote:its a bit overkill for some goats, in fact probably anything but buff in the neck with only using slugs
but it's a perfect setup for home defence
“but it's a perfect setup for home defence”. Let us see how that works.
Your firearm is in the safe and your property is being broken into. You shout out to the criminals to hold off for a while as you need to get your safe keys and remove your firearm from the safe and obtain your cleaning equipment as the oil needs to be removed from the rifle or shotgun barrel and that you also need to gain excess to the ammo and perhaps the rifle bolt that is locked up separate to the firearm.
During this time being a super cool dude you are able to save the day and use or threaten to use the firearm on the criminals.
Be aware that people that hate firearm owners are always looking for any reason to attack firearm owners, please do not give them an excuse to enforce more restrictions on us. I do not like it, but firearms are frowned upon by the powers that be when used in a home defence situation.