Diamond Jim wrote:All my life it was 4s or 5s for bunnies and BBs for foxes. 2s would also probably do but 9's are strictly small bird/rat/snake medicine and not humane for fox, cat etc unless you can just about place the muzzle on the back of its neck. An ethical hunter wouldn't use 9s for fox.
mchughcb wrote:Is 60m too close?
mchughcb wrote:Not with steel either.
Oldbloke wrote:I don't consider that to be ethical. Just 1 fluke shot does not prove its reliable or humane. Try 20 shots at 60 yards and see how many escape to recover or die very slowly. Not that you would ever find out.
That's like shooting a sambar between the eyes with NV at 20 yards with a 22lr. Then claim a 22 is ok for sambar.
I agree, 25 yards max. But would never use them myself.
https://ssaavic.com.au/hunting-pest-con ... -can-hunt/
Oldbloke wrote:I don't consider that to be ethical. Just 1 fluke shot does not prove its reliable or humane. Try 20 shots at 60 yards and see how many escape to recover or die very slowly. Not that you would ever find out.
That's like shooting a sambar between the eyes with NV at 20 yards with a 22lr. Then claim a 22 is ok for sambar.
I agree, 25 yards max. But would never use them myself.
https://ssaavic.com.au/hunting-pest-con ... -can-hunt/
Ziege wrote:Oldbloke wrote:I don't consider that to be ethical. Just 1 fluke shot does not prove its reliable or humane. Try 20 shots at 60 yards and see how many escape to recover or die very slowly. Not that you would ever find out.
That's like shooting a sambar between the eyes with NV at 20 yards with a 22lr. Then claim a 22 is ok for sambar.
I agree, 25 yards max. But would never use them myself.
https://ssaavic.com.au/hunting-pest-con ... -can-hunt/
dont tell the anti's but I have seen dozens eat up BB and #2 and so on and crawl off to die slowly or run off into the distance full of gun bees..... so meh
Ziege wrote:
dont tell the anti's but I have seen dozens eat up BB and #2 and so on and crawl off to die slowly or run off into the distance full of gun bees..... so meh
mchughcb wrote:Ziege wrote:
dont tell the anti's but I have seen dozens eat up BB and #2 and so on and crawl off to die slowly or run off into the distance full of gun bees..... so meh
They won't eat this stuff up. It eats #2 and BBs for breakfast way past 70m.
https://youtu.be/3TcwX7pWFR4
Oldbloke wrote:Personally I haven't had any run with 2s. But then only shot perhaps a 20 with a 12g. Shot a few with 22lr, and had a couple keep going with a confident shot. So bought a 223 as I was getting to enjoy whistling. None have run since. But I pass up risky shots.
Oldbloke wrote:I don't consider that to be ethical. Just 1 fluke shot does not prove its reliable or humane. Try 20 shots at 60 yards and see how many escape to recover or die very slowly. Not that you would ever find out.
That's like shooting a sambar between the eyes with NV at 20 yards with a 22lr. Then claim a 22 is ok for sambar.
I agree, 25 yards max. But would never use them myself.
https://ssaavic.com.au/hunting-pest-con ... -can-hunt/
mchughcb wrote:Oldbloke wrote:I don't consider that to be ethical. Just 1 fluke shot does not prove its reliable or humane. Try 20 shots at 60 yards and see how many escape to recover or die very slowly. Not that you would ever find out.
That's like shooting a sambar between the eyes with NV at 20 yards with a 22lr. Then claim a 22 is ok for sambar.
I agree, 25 yards max. But would never use them myself.
https://ssaavic.com.au/hunting-pest-con ... -can-hunt/
For an old bloke when was the last time you were only 18m from a sambar with a NV with a 22LR?