Templeton Arms t2000 vs Buckmaster PB12

[Notafed]

Hey gentlemen,

I'm in the process of purchasing a new Shotgun and the two I'm caught between is the Templeton Arms T2000 and the Buckmaster PB12. Price is not a factor. Quality, reliability and ease of use are. I'm looking at the synthetic 20in versions of both. May those of you with personal experience with either of these shotguns please post your thoughts of each, pros and cons, general conclusions etc. It's got me in a bit of a mental pickle. Thank you everyone.

Warm regards
Notafed

[bigpete]

I don't own either,but I'm going the Templeton t-2000 route,simply because I don't like the fact the buckmaster forces you to use 2 hands at predetermined positions.

[BMW]

Hi mate, I have the buckmaster in the walnut 28" barrel. Have used the 20" synthetic also. As big pete says the gun governs where your pointing hand holds the forend. It is a long way forward, akin to how one holds a s x s on the barrels, not the forend wood, if that makes sense.
Quality is like all Turkish guns, this one is on par with the verney carron veloce, that is to say very poor,( But opinions are relative to what you're used to I guess, it would be unfair to compare these guns with a dt11 or invictus trap or something along those lines) in final machining and fit and finish. The barrels look very similar through a borescope, that is to say the quality of the hard chrome is not there.
The pb12 has cycled everything I have run through it, far more reliably than the v.c. but haven't tried anything less than 32g loads and solids. The release is actually quite stiff to use, however some discreet lapping and polishing would slick it up. And incidentally, after a few boxes of shells you can actually cycle and fire a lot faster than in the Ozzie reviews video.
I guess if you treat it like a novelty they are ok, but certainly not worth $1500 let alone the v.c. at $3600, but if money is no object and you don't mind crap I could part with the verney.

[Notafed]

Good morning gentlemen,

Thank you for the replies. I'll be heading into my local gunshop and shouldering the Templeton Arms t2000 and get a feel for it. I have shouldered the Bushmeister BA-X12 recently and didn't mind the feel of that but have not put any arounds through a Shotgun aside from your traditional over and unders and fiddling with a Adler. Do either of you have any experience with the Bushmeister BA-X12?

Warm regards
Notafed

[Pighunter]

Good morning gentlemen,

Thank you for the replies. I'll be heading into my local gunshop and shouldering the Templeton Arms t2000 and get a feel for it. I have shouldered the Bushmeister BA-X12 recently and didn't mind the feel of that but have not put any arounds through a Shotgun aside from your traditional over and unders and fiddling with a Adler. Do either of you have any experience with the Bushmeister BA-X12?

Warm regards
Notafed

I have used my buddies Bushmeister quite a few times out hunting. I really like it. We haven't had a single failure to cycle, it's lighter than my Marlin 336. It's taken multiple pigs with no issues and the lever is quite easy to use and in my opinion in a good position if you're right handed.

[big matt]

I'm just ordering this version of the buckmaster, can't wait...

[womble]

Needs more rails.

[dpskipper]

having handled both guns in question, the t2000 has light years ahead better build quality. feels solid and well built.
PB12 rattles and not to mention very obvious tooling marks in the chamber, which for a $2k gun did not impress me at all

[Troy]

What did you end up buying? I have a templeton t2000 on order the tactical one as I want a red dot on it.