Should the Adler shotgun be banned.

[womble]

I think I’m in favour of banning it now.

[bladeracer]

I think I’m in favour of banning it now.

What did it do?

[No1_49er]

I think I’m in favour of banning it now.

You only think you're in favour of banning it, now. But you're not really sure?

What enlightenment brought you to that conclusion.
Or, have you been smoking the grass again?

[Fester]

Just the $200 junkers sitting in every 2nd safe, or do you want all the straight-pulls, including the gas-gun push-buttons, banned?

[womble]

Just the junkers.

Yep happy to comply with the ban now

[Bugman]

Just the junkers.

Yep happy to comply with the ban now

Again, the question is asked. Why?

[MG5150]

What's wrong with every 2nd person having an Adler sitting in their safe?

[Fester]

What's wrong with every 2nd person having an Adler sitting in their safe?

Nothing if you have heaps of safe space, but that's why he wants them banned, isn't it (compensation)

I never wanted one and held off until the Dicko, it is now worth half price because of the Temple gas gun.

When I set up another safe, I would like a 28" plain ribbed Templeton as it would be a fine wing shooting gun.
They will likely be banned with the latest anti-push or the next one.
Better to have had fun with one than miss out altogether.

The professional liar who still makes money from his family, killed at Port Arthur, is back out going to newspapers with the fight against Borsack's good hunting legislation.

I would prefer threads about helping get this up, then suggesting gun bans.

[womble]

Can't sell them .

Greens want them banned.

I would like to be fairly compensated yes.

[MG5150]

You want a particular model/brand of gun banned, and for everyone who wants to have one to miss out just so the government can compensate you with a buyback?

The market was flooded with cheap shotguns sold at clearance prices because of the bans that happened in WA earlier in the year, same thing will happen again if there is another ban in a new state.

[Fester]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

[womble]

I dint think of that.

I don’t think button releases should be banned.

[jovialjosie2002]

I had my straight pull for 6 years. I paid about $500 for it new. Put about 2k rounds through it and traded it in at my LGS for $100. That was $100 more than I expected to get for it. Hence, it cost me about $100/ year. Was i happy with that cost/performance of the Adler? Yes obviously. Would i ever buy another turk shotgun again? No, in the end, I didn't feel safe shooting it.
If the green/liebor party want to ban them, I think it'll make everyone happy, plenty of shooters/gun stores will make a small fortune on a buy back.

[womble]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

Riddle me this
Why are pump actions banned ?

[Wapiti]

If the green/liebor party want to ban them, I think it'll make everyone happy, plenty of shooters/gun stores will make a small fortune on a buy back.

Gun stores make nothing out of buy-backs.
The only gain is they may get to sell another cheap inferior idea to the shooter and grab a bit of profit on the trade price.

There is nothing positive about the slow march to totalitarianism by when being dumb enough to ask some inane drunken question about why anything more needs to be banned. This is only a troll sh*tstirring. I have no idea why the mods allow this BS to continue, post views and replies take precedence over quality content, obviously.

The market, i.e. the consumer and their satisfaction with a certain type of action/make should be the only reason a firearm fades into obscurity.
Better ideas, evolution of an idea. That's it.

[womble]

You can say his name.

Tony Abbot

[bigrich]

are you bored womble ?

posting you want a firearm banned on a firearms forum is a nonsensical "monty python" moment . it's up there with "the department of silly walks"

[womble]

are you bored womble ?

posting you want a firearm banned on a firearms forum is a nonsensical "monty python" moment . it's up there with "the department of silly walks"

I don’t want it banned. I’m mocking the ban or attempted ban. The failed attempt by the libs. The absolute sh*tfight where they were eventually forced to concede.
It’s a pivotal moment for us because we, to a degree, finally broke Howard’s curse. And the guns that followed the Adler have proved their worth and yet there was no mass shooting craziness.
So it’s just apon reflection I mock their efforts to ban that gun and how much grief it caused the anti gun party and it’s leaders. Notably Abbot through Turnbull, with Turnbull eventually caving.

So in essence, to agree to that ban now would make all their grief for nothing. The horse has bolted.

Liberty ruled the day.

In fact, you yourself once spruiked Matt Canavan on here .
Where was he. Did he cross the floor for us. Nope.
He didn’t even turn up.

[bigrich]

are you bored womble ?

posting you want a firearm banned on a firearms forum is a nonsensical "monty python" moment . it's up there with "the department of silly walks"

I don’t want it banned. I’m mocking the ban or attempted ban. The failed attempt by the libs. The absolute sh*tfight where they were eventually forced to concede.
It’s a pivotal moment for us because we, to a degree, finally broke Howard’s curse. And the guns that followed the Adler have proved their worth and yet there was no mass shooting craziness.
So it’s just apon reflection I mock their efforts to ban that gun and how much grief it caused the anti gun party and it’s leaders. Notably Abbot through Turnbull, with Turnbull eventually caving.

So in essence, to agree to that ban now would make all their grief for nothing. The horse has bolted.

Liberty ruled the day.

In fact, you yourself once spruiked Matt Canavan on here .
Where was he. Did he cross the floor for us. Nope.
He didn’t even turn up.

ahhh , okay . it didn't come through to me that you were mocking the banning laws . i think others may have missed that as well matt canavan ? out of current conservatives he's got promise from what i've seen , compared to what's on offer from the coalition anyway
as far as supporting/advocating for politicians in general , i in no way support anyone 100% cause none of them are perfect . a lot of people discussing politics seem to take a "football club" mentality and support their chosen absolutely . not me . if canavan didn't cross the floor at the time that's not the end of the world . not sure if he's even relevant to the situation your referring to

i'm sure you'll enlighten me if possible

[alexjones]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

Riddle me this
Why are pump actions banned ?

Pump actions are not banned. I have several that I legally own. Mossberg 500 x2, Winchester 1200 x1 and Remington's 870 x4

I think you mean "regulated" like every other gun in this federation of self governing states. This is the problem with gun laws as it allows people with more money to be able to jump through the hopes to get the guns they want which creates an unfair system.

[alexjones]

Bloke I know is a legitimate armourer so he can buy machine guns etc and he supplies them to movie and TV shows in Australia but the on paper armourers with a lot of money who just want to own machine guns drive up the price of the guns becuase they just want to own them in their private collection.

So all gun laws do is create a two tier system where the rich can abuse the system leaving the rest of us without the guns.

[wrenchman]

I would like to now did they hold up after being shot for a while I am just now starting to see them here .
I have a few shot guns and bird hunt mostly with them now but there was a time I did most my deer hunting with the 870 rem.

[womble]

I would like to now did they hold up after being shot for a while I am just now starting to see them here .
I have a few shot guns and bird hunt mostly with them now but there was a time I did most my deer hunting with the 870 rem.

You get what you pay for, like anything else wrenchman. The Adler wasn’t the top pick of what was or is available here.
The uzkon was considered the best quality of all.
You’re not really getting the same level of reliability in feeding/ejecting rounds you had with the pump action 870. That’s just a superior design.
I don’t know what’s available over there but i would avoid the ones where low price is a selling point.
But also possibly there are some better quality ones available. There are good quality Turkish made shotguns nowadays.
Yildiz. Huglu, Akkar.

But they may be sold, marketed under another brand in the US. Like stoeger is for boito.
I know Huglu are sold as CZ in the US.
But I don’t know a whole lot more than that.

[wrenchman]

right now I am not in the market for any new guns right now I am clearing out the ones I don't use or don't mean any thing to me I have been seeing them and remembered all the crying when they hit the market over there.

[bigrich]

right now I am not in the market for any new guns right now I am clearing out the ones I don't use or don't mean any thing to me I have been seeing them and remembered all the crying when they hit the market over there.

your lucky to be in the US, so much choice . i've heard there's a company over there that builds 358win chambered ar10's, wilson combat . now that'd be a pig hunting gun and a half !

[yoshie]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

Riddle me this
Why are pump actions banned ?

In 96 when they were coming up with the new regs, they sort input from stake holders. The Vic and NSW police wanted pumps shotguns banned. There were a few incidents with pumps, they were bank robbers weapon of choice, and their officers were out-gunned with thire 38 revolvers. Pumps shotguns were moved to the almost unobtainable category while pump rifles, lever shotguns and rifles left obtainable.

I've seen a few times the argument from gun banners that lever shot guns and pump rifles are a loop hole, but thats not the case, pump shotguns to cat C is the exception.

[womble]

Well they don’t have 38 revolvers anymore so that ban needs to be revisited.

If that was their reasoning it no longer applies.

[mchughcb]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

Riddle me this
Why are pump actions banned ?

There is a very long winded explanation of this. So I will give you the short version. A anti gun bureaucrat listen to an offhand remark by a tactical response cop who said they use pump rather than semi shotguns. But don't use pump rifles. The rest is history.

[Wapiti]

They only cost about $600, so just take the loss. You did choose to buy one.
The ones that get used would be just knock abouts, bouncing around utes, and are worth nothing.

If they banned the cheap old lever, the straight pulls and button releases would also be gone, obviously.

Riddle me this
Why are pump actions banned ?

Pump actions are not banned. I have several that I legally own. Mossberg 500 x2, Winchester 1200 x1 and Remington's 870 x4

I think you mean "regulated" like every other gun in this federation of self governing states. This is the problem with gun laws as it allows people with more money to be able to jump through the hopes to get the guns they want which creates an unfair system.

Not so simple.
That's ONLY if you meet the set criteria in the law AND can prove a genuine need.
That's for the people who actually shoot them, I'm not referring to the safe queens, the ones bought by "collectors"
Because the actual "users" in Qld can only own one Cat C shotgun, one rimfire and/or/if maybe one Cat D firearm each. As primary producers I mean. Per individual.
That's why the farmers wife needs to get a cat d licence too, and that's not done without a fight from WLB.
I know SFA about genuine, real businesses that are solely pest destruction. You can keep that job.

[TuskerOrd]

I'd much rather drop a cheap adler into a 44Gallon drum during a 3 gun shoot than my expensive silver pigion.

It might be cheap and ugly AF, but it does what I need it to do, and I dont have to destroy my safe queens to have fun.