First Shotgun choice

[brett1868]

I have been in the market for a decent clay shotgun for a while, since my shooting buddy got back from a trip to his mates where they spent a couple days shooting clay. He loved it and been pestering me to buy a "Real" shotgun as apparently my 20" TactiCool Mossburg Thunder Ranch shoulder crusher isn't a real shotgun. He bought the Akkar Churchill Combo yesterday and I picked one up this afternoon. Very impressive for the price, 2 Barrels, 5 chokes and a nice hard plastic carry case all for $1240 which is half the price of the Beretta I was looking to buy. I put the savings towards the massive amount of primers I needed/ Once I get it out of the box later tonight or over the weekend I'll post some pictures.

[Royalla]

I just bought the akkar churchill myself as well. Seems like it's built well for the price and fits me well although I haven't had a chance to have a shot of it yet. That's what this weekend is for though Should hopefully bust a fee bunnies and foxes!

[Atter]

I just bought the akkar churchill myself as well. Seems like it's built well for the price and fits me well although I haven't had a chance to have a shot of it yet. That's what this weekend is for though Should hopefully bust a fee bunnies and foxes!

Nice one

Good luck with the bunnies.

[GLS_1956]

The O/U has the advantage of having a single sighting plain, also the O/U obscures less of the target/game if they are on the rise and you have raise to barrels. Some people claim that SBS guns swing easier, but I've never noticed this, but I hunted with either a pump or autoloading shotgun. Dual, or twin, triggers are mechanically simpler. As a rule the front trigger fires the more open choked barrel first, the rear trigger the tighter choked barrel.

Price wise we are now seeing lower priced O/U guns coming in from Eastern Europe and South American.

[Gregg]

Yeah but a SXS has class

[rsj223]

Well the cheap first shot gun has its first problem.
About 3 weeks ago when I first took it out it shot both barrels at the same time and I thought it was because I was testing all the different things it could do and ony don it once over 50 shots, so just blamed me.
Went out Sunday and it done it again this time twice, took it apart look, lubed it up seemed fine for about another 10 shots then it done it again so switched it over select the under barrel first and went through 3 more boxes without a problem.
So it will go back to the shop later in the week but would like to know your thoughts so I dont seem completely dumb when I take it back

[Korkt]

Which shotgun is it RSJ?

You're not the first person to have a shotty fire both at once, whoever's looking at it in the shop will be familiar with the issue.

On some O/U shotguns the first trigger is set by opening the action. The second is set by the recoil of the first shot. Could be on the problem shots your gun is setting both triggers on opening the action instead of just one.

If a sear is worn in an old shotgun recoil can trip the second trigger also, but sounds like yours is pretty new?

Either way, don't mess with it yourself. Take it back to the shop.

[rsj223]

Which shotgun is it RSJ?

You're not the first person to have a shotty fire both at once, whoever's looking at it in the shop will be familiar with the issue.

On some O/U shotguns the first trigger is set by opening the action. The second is set by the recoil of the first shot. Could be on the problem shots your gun is setting both triggers on opening the action instead of just one.

If a sear is worn in an old shotgun recoil can trip the second trigger also, but sounds like yours is pretty new?

Either way, don't mess with it yourself. Take it back to the shop.

Its a Hatsan Escort U/O, I dont know enough about it to try pull it apart, will see what the shop says just want to go there with some knowledge.

[Korkt]

Shouldn't be a big deal mate. As I said you're not the first person to have the problem.

My best guess is still opening the action setting both triggers, no need to have solved the problem for the gun shop though. They'll sort it out.

[rsj223]

He said easy fix but will take a week, he said something about shears?

[chacka]

The sear is what holds the firing pin or hammer back. When you pull the trigger the sear releases the pin/hammer and the firearm fires.

Rough explanation is the trigger and sear connect with a notch. On some triggers this is adjustable or sometimes it's fixed and a smith would need to change it.

You can have the sear engagement set so fine that the trigger is barely holding onto the sear and a bump or vibration can release it. Otherwise the sear can be worn down so it doesn't engage properly any more.

It happens, shouldn't be a big deal. Hope that makes sense.

[rsj223]

The sear is what holds the firing pin or hammer back. When you pull the trigger the sear releases the pin/hammer and the firearm fires.

Rough explanation is the trigger and sear connect with a notch. On some triggers this is adjustable or sometimes it's fixed and a smith would need to change it.

You can have the sear engagement set so fine that the trigger is barely holding onto the sear and a bump or vibration can release it. Otherwise the sear can be worn down so it doesn't engage properly any more.

It happens, shouldn't be a big deal. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks for that, I found out today it was called a sear just hope it gets done right.

[Mich]

Chacka is right that it's just one of those things.

Easy to set it wrong or for wear to cause slippage.

Easy enough to fix though too.

[rsj223]

Got it back on the 4th so about a month to fix, they said had to polish the sears as they were sticking?
Need to get out and give it a try.

[Aster]

Some triggers can have a bit of a gritty pull, typically you would polish the sear to smooth that out.

I suppose it's possible some burring or chatter marks were stopping it from engaging 100%.

They have to disassemble it to polish anyway, in putting it back together they would have made sure the engagement was correct.

Only one way to see

[jake84]

i have a akka churchhill over and under its great for clays and hunting in my opinon .

[Rakk]

All sorted rsj?

[rsj223]

All sorted rsj?

Still need to take it out been to busy playing with the 30-06, I have to do it this weekend or next as I go in for my elbow op the week after.

[Rocker]

C'mon, no one likes a procrastinator. This weekend

[rsj223]

Took it out last weekend and went through 2 boxes without a problem, so happy that its all sorted.

[Norton]

Good times