Why are shotguns so expensive?

[Oldbloke]

Hum bug. s**t loads of happy boito users out there. Horses for courses.

[Heckler303]

Boito isn't junk, they just don't care for the snob factor. I'd very much like a coach gun from them as it wouldnt cost me a fortune nor be chinese crap that really shouldnt be put out.

Shotguns are basic firearms with basic purpose, you could build a slam fire shotgun and it would work fine. But really, its still a shotgun. Aside from being their ability to give you a better chance of hitting close aerial targets, all they are, are just smoothbore, noisy, messy and short range guns.

[on_one_wheel]

I only paid $ 600 new for my 20" s/s shotgun .

I didn't get screw in chokes, hard chromed lined barrels, selectable match grade trigger, ejectors, high grade adjustable Turkish Walnut stock, a deeply blued finish with gold inland engraving or a hand crafted wood / leather / felt carry case so I probably saved some money there.

[bigfellascott]

Side by side and under over shotguns are not so easy to build. It takes some skill to get the alignment right and most of the new guns are really poorly built and pattern like crap. Stuff like ATA, boito and other bargain rubbish should not even be sold to the public.

Yep the Boito's don't have the overpriced price tag, or the fancy finish that expensive stuff has but they still work the same, mine still kills foxes and rabbits etc just as good as my $2600 Beretta, clays fall out of the sky whether they are shot with a $60 shotgun or one worth 20x that.

Everyone laughs at me when I roll up with the $60 special to bust some clays with, they soon realise it ain't the price tag that makes the difference, just the operator.

[Harronek]

I have owned both expensive and cheap Shotguns , and I can honestly say I would take the expensive one every time , and won't ever buy a cheapy ever again .
Looks , feel , balance , pride of ownership , precision , quality of timber , features like detachable triggers , modular systems where barrels can be swapped instantly , manufactures backup and warranties service , reliability , longevity , the list goes on and on , but one thing is for sure , those things cost money .
Buy once and buy well , I will still be shooting my Shotgun in 30 years time , it will still have its original barrels and will probably be up over the 100,000 shots through it by then , if I was to shoot my rifle that much it would be on barrel number 20 by then , just think of the cost of that .

Ken

[sandgroperbill]

I have an Adler on order.

Just sayin'.

On a more serious note, though, the Churchill's seemed a decent shotgun at a reasonable price. Not as cheap as the boitos, stoegers, etc, but with what appeared to be a better finish and quality. But the dondors didn't t look too bad for a cheapie. Either way, you wouldn't sit in the corner crying for a week if you put a scratch in them.

But, IMHO, some shotguns are created to be art, not tools.

Each to their own.

[Oldbloke]

This has become a pointless argument. Seems to me it is like an argument on which is better, ford or holden. Nobody will change their mind. Nor are most open minded.

[bigfellascott]

I get your point Ken, I'm still shooting my 30+yr old Boito shooting everything from clays to foxes/rabbits etc but if I wanted to do heaps of shooting like clays regularly (week in week out) I would buy a half decent shotgun which should hold up to that sort of use.

It all really comes down to what sort of use you are expecting to put them too as to whether it really is necessary to spend good $$ or whether you can get away with using something cheaper to cover your needs.

I love that little Boito SB of mine, she ain't flash in looks etc but she's super light, points fantastic and I don't miss very often I can tell ya and I often carry along with a rifle when out fox whistling to sort out those sneaky foxes that just happen to appear out of thin air, no way I'd be carting my Beretta to do the same sort of thing (heavier and cost way more than the Boito which I can happily lay in the dirt etc without worrying about damaging the appearance of too much.

I've also got a brand new 410g Boito SB sitting in the safe which the kids and wife use for clays etc

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Side by side and under over shotguns are not so easy to build. It takes some skill to get the alignment right and most of the new guns are really poorly built and pattern like crap. Stuff like ATA, boito and other bargain rubbish should not even be sold to the public.

Yep the Boito's don't have the overpriced price tag, or the fancy finish that expensive stuff has but they still work the same, mine still kills foxes and rabbits etc just as good as my $2600 Beretta, clays fall out of the sky whether they are shot with a $60 shotgun or one worth 20x that.

Everyone laughs at me when I roll up with the $60 special to bust some clays with, they soon realise it ain't the price tag that makes the difference, just the operator.

A single shot .... to 'bust some clays' ?

Am guessing you're just muckin about ....

If so, a lot of your arguments about the difference between 'cheap and nasty' and something with a bigger price tag ( of a higher quality ), are fallacious / facile.

[bigfellascott]

Side by side and under over shotguns are not so easy to build. It takes some skill to get the alignment right and most of the new guns are really poorly built and pattern like crap. Stuff like ATA, boito and other bargain rubbish should not even be sold to the public.

Yep the Boito's don't have the overpriced price tag, or the fancy finish that expensive stuff has but they still work the same, mine still kills foxes and rabbits etc just as good as my $2600 Beretta, clays fall out of the sky whether they are shot with a $60 shotgun or one worth 20x that.

Everyone laughs at me when I roll up with the $60 special to bust some clays with, they soon realise it ain't the price tag that makes the difference, just the operator.

A single shot .... to 'bust some clays' ?

Am guessing you're just muckin about ....

If so, a lot of your arguments about the difference between 'cheap and nasty' and something with a bigger price tag ( of a higher quality ), are fallacious / facile.

I've shot clays in competition settings (U/O used) and used SB for shooting clays for fun, they both get the job done regardless of price tag

[lole]

Lol. $800000 you could buy a rolls royce for that.

Just for people with too much money who need something to spend it on.

(And to brag like a wanker about how much you paid for it )

[bigfellascott]

Lol. $800000 you could buy a rolls royce for that.

Just for people with too much money who need something to spend it on.

(And to brag like a wanker about how much you paid for it )

Yep it won't make you a better shot but will show how much money you can waste if ya want

[Gwion]

Like any craft with a long history and very few practitioners, a true artisan bespoke article is worth an absolute bomb. You pay a lot for the time, effort and dedication it takes to make a truely superb piece.

At the lower end of the 'good' guns, you pay for the reputation and the service that stands behind it. I'd like an nice shotgun for the artistry but all I really need is one that shoots more than 2 shots before reload!

[Gwion]

Although I'd probably be happy with a nice old sxs!

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Those who can afford, would probably say something about 'pride in ownership'.

[juststarting]

I walked into a gun shop. I asked "what's the cheapest shotgun you have?"

I was shown a shotgun.

I then said, "thank you, please send a pta for one of those".

I can miss with any rifle, biotchez.

[happyhunter]

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[VICHunter]

Why are shotguns so expensive?

Left over from when fancy English lords spent bag fulls of cash on their fox hunts I say

[bigfellascott]

Why are shotguns so expensive, cos they wanna rip ya off - I shoot my $60 Boito just as good as my $2600 Beretta on clays so it ain't because you get better results from an expensive one in my experience, more to do with the Timber, fancy finishes etc and I guess a lot of the higher end stuff is hand made/finished so takes longer to produce which means higher costs to make.

I've seen some firearms up around $800,000 from memory, fooked if I can see the value in it but I guess if you have that sort of $$ to spend then $$ aren't a major concern to you and you obviously want to own something unique and rare I guess.

Some expensive shotguns here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UokxuivYEgc

Cheap compared to this rifle though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJdR4nwIoeA

Some flash looking shotguns and rifles here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdA2Iw54I8

$2600 is peanuts for a good shotgun.

But I'm not sure why you are talikng down expensive shotguns jus cos most of us could never afford one? I rekon it's cool that some companies like Purdey or Holland & Holland exist to make the really high end stuff. Those things are works of art and the build is perfect. If I had the dough I'd definitely invest in one, just like I'd invest in the work of a famous artist if I had the dough, or a ferrari F40 if I was rich and into cars. Stuff like that only goes up in value.

I'll bet your the sorta bloke that likes Gucci Handbags and Sunnies etc, over priced, over ranted and over here, but you are welcome to use em if it turns ya on. Me I wouldn't waste a heap of money even if I had it on the "Upmarket" stuff, it just doesn't do anything at all for me, I've got simple tastes and I'm more than fine with that.

[inventurkey]

I can miss with any rifle, biotchez.

Mad skillz

[on_one_wheel]

http://hollandandholland.com

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Or if your tweed jacket , classy stud bred bird dog and ultra expensive H&H shotgun aren't enough to impress your mates , perhaps you could buy the Holland & Holland Range Rover package.

http://hollandandholland.com/lifestyle/range-rover/

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[bigfellascott]

Oh fook we have to buy a bloody Rangie and where tweed as well to own these overpriced guns? that does it I'm not going to buy em now!

[sandgroperbill]

well, at least a part of that package would be well built and reliable...

[on_one_wheel]

Oh fook we have to buy a bloody Rangie and where tweed as well to own these overpriced guns? that does it I'm not going to buy em now!

That's it ... I'll just settle for the $600 stoger , a flanno shirt and the mutt in the back of the ute..

[bigfellascott]

Oh fook we have to buy a bloody Rangie and where tweed as well to own these overpriced guns? that does it I'm not going to buy em now!

That's it ... I'll just settle for the $600 stoger , a flanno shirt and the mutt in the back of the ute..

Too bloody right mate, the results will be the same anyway except you didn't get the chance to say look at me look at me.

[happyhunter]

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[bigfellascott]

Why are shotguns so expensive, cos they wanna rip ya off - I shoot my $60 Boito just as good as my $2600 Beretta on clays so it ain't because you get better results from an expensive one in my experience, more to do with the Timber, fancy finishes etc and I guess a lot of the higher end stuff is hand made/finished so takes longer to produce which means higher costs to make.

I've seen some firearms up around $800,000 from memory, fooked if I can see the value in it but I guess if you have that sort of $$ to spend then $$ aren't a major concern to you and you obviously want to own something unique and rare I guess.

Some expensive shotguns here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UokxuivYEgc

Cheap compared to this rifle though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJdR4nwIoeA

Some flash looking shotguns and rifles here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdA2Iw54I8

$2600 is peanuts for a good shotgun.

But I'm not sure why you are talikng down expensive shotguns jus cos most of us could never afford one? I rekon it's cool that some companies like Purdey or Holland & Holland exist to make the really high end stuff. Those things are works of art and the build is perfect. If I had the dough I'd definitely invest in one, just like I'd invest in the work of a famous artist if I had the dough, or a ferrari F40 if I was rich and into cars. Stuff like that only goes up in value.

I'll bet your the sorta bloke that likes Gucci Handbags and Sunnies etc, over priced, over ranted and over here, but you are welcome to use em if it turns ya on. Me I wouldn't waste a heap of money even if I had it on the "Upmarket" stuff, it just doesn't do anything at all for me, I've got simple tastes and I'm more than fine with that.

nah. I'm the bloke that drives an old patrol wagon and shoots the 60 year old beretta he inherited from his old man. Also the bloke that doesn't hang s**t on people just because they have different ideas.

Sorry I upset ya mate