Elorion wrote:I don´t know if this thread is dead but easter this year I had an accident with my brand new Adler. While shooting it exploaded right in my face resulting in a loss of 10 teeth and crusched upper jaw. As far as I know there where no problem with the ammo, no magnum or express loads just regular skeet/training.
OP, did they ever get an answer what was the cause of the malfunction?
When I got my Adler I thought it strange that It was kinda hard to get the lever to stick all the way back while cycling and shooting it. The action would be fully closed but the lever would have a 1-2 cm wiggle-room and I would have to push it all the way upp until I hear a click. You who have an Adler, is that "click" what locks tha action in place?
/Toothless
marksman wrote:Elorian keep on it mate dont let them get away with it
lMHO if an action will fire out of battery it is unsafe and should not be on the market
l had a phone call from the legal guys of a manufacturer of a very expensive firearm maker who's rifle blew up because it fired out of battery that l witnessed
lets say the conversation was pleasant but l dont expect another call back
l wish the guy who this happened to would have been the one to contact me
remington bought people out for years because there trigger on the model 700 was flawed and fired without touching the trigger till one family would not be bought out after their son was accidentally shot dead because of this
l've had issue with the actions on remington centerfire pumps opening on firing as well
l wonder how Brett went with the trying cases with primers to see if they would go off in bolt action rifles, l have done this experiment and found that the only ones that would fire were in bolts that l have fitted speed lock kits
its a lot of work to find what you are looking for but persistence will work out for you
l dont get how money can be more important than peoples welfare, sell a better product and you will sell more good luck with it
Elorion wrote:So just to be clear, the firing-pin can strike a shotgun shell even if the mechanism is not locked in it´s forward position?
brett1868 wrote:John wayne special mod....
I was thinking more the "Terminator" mod where I could swing it around one handed to reload it
Johnny Jigsaw wrote:I have a brand new Adler and I was testing with snap caps. It seems when i have nothing in the chamber the lever closes fine but when i have snap caps in it doesn't close all the way and i have to put extra force and really squeeze the lever to close it.
brett1868 wrote:Whilst it would be much safer to have a hammer lock type safety that's disengaged when the lever is fully closed I still don't agree with it being a design fault on the Adler. It's more a design shortfall by not incorporating this extra safety and probably done to cut costs. It could be successfully argued that the operator was liable for the incident as Page 3, item 6 under both sections relating to loading the firearm clearly state "Push the lever up and close the action". If the lever was fully up and the action wasn't properly closed then there's grounds for action.
Diamond Jim wrote:Johnny Jigsaw wrote:I have a brand new Adler and I was testing with snap caps. It seems when i have nothing in the chamber the lever closes fine but when i have snap caps in it doesn't close all the way and i have to put extra force and really squeeze the lever to close it.
I'm not familiar with the Adler design but with many lever (and bolt) guns - as it picks up a round from the magazine or shell carrier, it slides up under the extractor as the lever closes. If you drop a round into the action and close the lever, the extractor has to jump over the case rim against significant tension. That may explain the extra force needed to close the action on a snap cap. Is it the same if you feed a snap cap from the magazine? If so, the snap cap may have a thicker rim than an ordinary shell.