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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by happyhunter » 29 Sep 2016, 10:43 am

I like the Winchester 37A.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 29 Sep 2016, 11:47 am

Bentaz,
Which of those Winchester Single shots, do you think is best
Re: quality ?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 29 Sep 2016, 12:10 pm

Spanish / Yankee made ?
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Post by Gwion » 29 Sep 2016, 1:10 pm

All good, Aster. Thanks. Took me a while to figure it out to begin with...
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 29 Sep 2016, 1:21 pm

For those intrested i've put in a permit for a savage single barrel with a hammer and the longest barrel i've ever seen, for can you belive it a whole $150 haha, i might even pick another one up next week, should pick it up saturday :D
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by pete1 » 29 Sep 2016, 2:17 pm

AusTac wrote:For those intrested i've put in a permit for a savage single barrel with a hammer and the longest barrel i've ever seen, for can you belive it a whole $150 haha, i might even pick another one up next week, should pick it up saturday :D



Sounds good, is that new price?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by happyhunter » 29 Sep 2016, 2:32 pm

AusTac wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Out of curiosity, why do you want a single?
( "just because" is good enough for me )


whats the go with chokes and slugs in a smooth bore anyway?


The go is no problem at all. Rifled slugs are designed for smooth bore shotguns. I shoot rifled slugs out of my Beretta PB409 which has fixed full and 3/4 chokes with no drama. The shotguns that use a rifled barrel shoot a sabot slug which is a different animal a rifled slug.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 29 Sep 2016, 2:36 pm

A 'rifled slug' creates its own spiral / twist and a barrel with rifling, imparts trist upon the projectile.

Is this close to the money ?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by happyhunter » 29 Sep 2016, 3:02 pm

This explains the rifled slug/sabot slug difference pretty well.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-t ... e-barrels/

We then must ask, “If the rifling does not spin the slug, then what causes the rifled slug to fly true?” The answer is that the slugs usually had a hollow base and they were heavier in the front than in the back, and flew straight for the same reason a dart flies true.


I always thought the grooves on a rifles slug were to create spin in flight but it appears the grooves are what makes them safe to shoot through choked barrels.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by Chronos » 29 Sep 2016, 3:05 pm

SB? bugger that, get a rifle/shotgun combo :thumbsup:

I had a Beretta SB Vittoria and it was a nice gun but annoyed me because when you broke the action the barrel would drop right down and pinch your trigger hand.

single tend to be fixed chokes and normally full so slugs are probably not a good idea

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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by happyhunter » 29 Sep 2016, 3:07 pm

The idea that slugs are bad or full choked barrels is myth.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by alby » 29 Sep 2016, 4:22 pm

What a about those Ottoman multi combos single shots that give you 3 in 1. 12g 20g and 410 for around 5-600.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 29 Sep 2016, 4:49 pm

Naah not new, second hand, but in decent nick for what it is, i've gone out and bought a whole heap of exotic ( to me, ie not u 1/2 ) shells including some 00 buck shot and solid magnum slugs, i can't wait to blow stuff, and my shoulder to peices
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by Tank » 29 Sep 2016, 5:31 pm

AusTac wrote:Everyone seems to rate the H&R but i can't find ANY for sale, the idea of a bolt shotty is neat!

And thanks for the specific list bentaz!

I'll be keeping a look out


My best recommendation would be 'not to!'....they're generally bloody horrible, point like a bent stick and kick like the proverbial mule.....
There's always something on 'Usedguns' though. Was a Miroku recently for not much.
Save your money and buy a sxs or an o/u would be the better bet though.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by Tank » 29 Sep 2016, 5:44 pm

happyhunter wrote:The idea that slugs are bad or full choked barrels is myth.


Myth? According to who?
'Slug' barrels from all manufacturers are 'cylinder'.....not full choke. Why would they do that if full choke works fine?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 29 Sep 2016, 7:28 pm

Tank wrote:
AusTac wrote:Everyone seems to rate the H&R but i can't find ANY for sale, the idea of a bolt shotty is neat!

And thanks for the specific list bentaz!

I'll be keeping a look out


My best recommendation would be 'not to!'....they're generally bloody horrible, point like a bent stick and kick like the proverbial mule.....
There's always something on 'Usedguns' though. Was a Miroku recently for not much.
Save your money and buy a sxs or an o/u would be the better bet though.
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I have a beretta 686 Sp1 which is awesome but not something i want to drag through the bush :)

And with the high brass i bought today it's going to be the biggest kick i've ever had i reckon but keen :D
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by pete1 » 29 Sep 2016, 9:50 pm

bentaz wrote:
Tank wrote:
happyhunter wrote:The idea that slugs are bad or full choked barrels is myth.


Myth? According to who?
'Slug' barrels from all manufacturers are 'cylinder'.....not full choke. Why would they do that if full choke works fine?

Its plenty safe, ive shot plenty of slugs through full choked guns, but accuracy won't be as good with 3/4 or full choke as it can deform the slugs as they compress.


If you have a cheap shotgun you can always cut the choke off then no problems with chokes and accuracy, if you don't care about the gun.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 29 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

pete1 wrote:
bentaz wrote:
Tank wrote:
happyhunter wrote:The idea that slugs are bad or full choked barrels is myth.


Myth? According to who?
'Slug' barrels from all manufacturers are 'cylinder'.....not full choke. Why would they do that if full choke works fine?

Its plenty safe, ive shot plenty of slugs through full choked guns, but accuracy won't be as good with 3/4 or full choke as it can deform the slugs as they compress.


If you have a cheap shotgun you can always cut the choke off then no problems with chokes and accuracy, if you don't care about the gun.


Now there's an idea, the one i bought today is literally like 40"
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by GLS_1956 » 30 Sep 2016, 1:28 am

H&R's Topper series of Topper shotguns are plain, simple, durable, and they work.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by happyhunter » 30 Sep 2016, 10:29 am

Tank wrote:
happyhunter wrote:The idea that slugs are bad or full choked barrels is myth.


Myth? According to who?
'Slug' barrels from all manufacturers are 'cylinder'.....not full choke. Why would they do that if full choke works fine?


According to everybody that has ever shot slugs through a full choked barrel. It's pretty obvious why slug guns are cylinder.. ie. why the hell would you choke a barrel designed to shoot a single projectile? No like it's produce a pattern :D
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 01 Oct 2016, 1:47 pm

So for those following, i ended up getting a savage model 940, with a scerial number of.. 10 not 100 10, its like getting boot kicked in the shoulder with high brass buck shot but its the most fun you can have with your pants on i reckon
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by pete1 » 01 Oct 2016, 7:19 pm

AusTac wrote:So for those following, i ended up getting a savage model 940, with a scerial number of.. 10 not 100 10, its like getting boot kicked in the shoulder with high brass buck shot but its the most fun you can have with your pants on i reckon


Very nice, yeh would love to see some pics
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 02 Oct 2016, 10:37 am

Upon giving it a thorough clean it seems to have a bit of rust in the bore, but it shot fine so nothing to really worry about.... yeah?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by Heckler303 » 02 Oct 2016, 11:32 am

Not particularly AusTac, if it's light surface rust you're all good. However, if that rust soon turns to pitting, then the problems will follow.

I'd recommend scrubbing the bore with a light rust remover, such as Navel Jelly rust-remover to get rid of it. Then swab the bore plenty of times with a thick cloth wrapped over a brush to pick up the dissolved fragments.
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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Oct 2016, 11:40 am

Put a Tornado Brush through it and see if it really is, I thought the ol Boito has the same issue after I gave it a good clean, then my mate used one of his homemade Tornado Brushes and it was just wadding and other crap that was stubben to remove. I actually think the boito has Chrome lined bore.

That Savage looks a lot like the ol Boito before I removed the bluing and gave it a polish. :D
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by AusTac » 02 Oct 2016, 12:09 pm

I first thought it was just rings of crap, so i got my 12 guage bronze brush out for the first time ( my other shotty is a clay gun and hardly fouls ) and cleaned the crap out of it, probably spent a solid hour trying to break those dark spots up, i'll invest in one of these tornado brushes and try again, it sure put a smile on my dial yesterday, if its bad hardcore pitting what should i expect? Exessive wad fouling?
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by bigfellascott » 02 Oct 2016, 12:53 pm

For patches for the shottie I just use that Blue or Pink Chux cloth - comes in 10m or 20m rolls from memory and does a fine job or I use paper towel if I've run out of the chux, works ok but not as good as it tends to want to fall apart when the solvents on it compared to the chux.
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Re: Recommend me a single shot shotgun

Post by pete1 » 02 Oct 2016, 12:58 pm

Well can always remove surface rust by blasting it with lead if there's not to much fouling
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