juststarting wrote:MR. WINCHESTER, but really... My Stoeger shoots just fine. It goes boom boom and everything. Even looks like a shotgun. Being someone who wanted a shotgun for occasional clay, I couldn't care less about fancy crap engraved into the action, on thighs of vergins. I break, I load, I close, I shoot. Works fine. I know, I know, heathen!
Depends what the OP is after. But if he's anything like me, Stoeger is just fine.
Centrefire is a different conversation
MR. WINCHESTER wrote:Yeah rite ...
"couple of pipes and two nails" !
F**k off to the centrefire sub-forum.
MR. WINCHESTER wrote:ignoramouses attract ignoramouses ....
brett1868 wrote:Deacon, The first 12ga I ever owned was a Mossburg Mariner 20" S/S pump and I loved it. I currently have a Thunder Ranch (amongst others) in the safe at the moment, it's the first thing I pack, take out, load when up on my block. It's a cheap & nasty pair of pipes on a plastic stock BUT I've been unable to destroy it and it's never let me down. Choice comes back to what type of shooting the O/P has in mind and how much he'll be shooting.
Supaduke wrote: The Mariner..... I owned one as well. Lusted after it for a while , stared at it in a gun shop in Cairns. Used to take my remmy 870 express out to sea but keeping the rust off was a constant chore.
Supaduke wrote:brett1868 wrote:Deacon, The first 12ga I ever owned was a Mossburg Mariner 20" S/S pump and I loved it. I currently have a Thunder Ranch (amongst others) in the safe at the moment, it's the first thing I pack, take out, load when up on my block. It's a cheap & nasty pair of pipes on a plastic stock BUT I've been unable to destroy it and it's never let me down. Choice comes back to what type of shooting the O/P has in mind and how much he'll be shooting.
The Mariner..... I owned one as well. Lusted after it for a while , stared at it in a gun shop in Cairns. Used to take my remmy 870 express out to sea but keeping the rust off was a constant chore. The stainless shotty with synthetic furniture was so Hollywood and when I found out it was called a mariner I had to have it.
Nearly cried handing that in back in 97 :/
Now I'm annoyed at John Howard, thanks Brett ....bastard
on_one_wheel wrote:If it's any help, I've been very happy with my $600 Stoeger coach gun.
You can pay much more ... if you want a flasher set of nails and pipes.
wade06 wrote: I'm even tossing up just getting a cheap second hand shot gun to start with.
The expensive shotguns look and feel great and are obviously better quality but may not be any more effective for occasional hunting.
happyhunter wrote:Shotguns are part of the culture I'm from and you get given one as a kid, usually the old mans hand me down. One is nearly 70 years old. I've owned a few, favorites being the Beretta 400s like the PB409, 410, 411s, a A300 self loader and a couple of cheap Kmart pumps back in the day.
A few years ago I went and bought a Stoeger coach, 20" barrels and what not for shooting off the dirt bike. Worst firearm I've ever used. Six months later I sold it back to the LGS.