Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by bladeracer » 12 Jan 2018, 3:26 pm

YoungBuck wrote:Thanks for the offer, but it's all good. I'll try different weights of factory rounds first and see how I go. :drinks:


It just occurred to me, Hornady do a low-recoil line of ammo called "Custom-Lite".
It includes an 87gn SST .243 load.
I have no idea if it's available in Oz.
But I could load some 87gn VMax's at the same velocity and see how they feel.

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/243-win-87-gr-sst-custom-lite#!/

87gn SST at 2800fps.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by YoungBuck » 12 Jan 2018, 3:29 pm

Daddybang wrote:Hey yb were ya using the ppu 90's?
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Bingo. Bought a couple of boxes of it to get the shots on paper and zero it.

bladeracer wrote:What position are shooting from? Prone will give you the most recoil feedback, seated from a bench would be better, standing is better still.
I would try a muzzle brake. You don't know anybody with a braked .243 you could try?

Was shooting from fold-out table I took with me, but I think it might have been a little low which might have contributed to the issue.
The brother of an in-law might have a break but my barrel isn't threaded... Tikka t3x Lite SS.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Daddybang » 12 Jan 2018, 3:38 pm

Thought so :D the ppu are cheaper than the name brands regardless of weight cause they're made in Serbia or one of those eastern Europe countries. And the felt recoil is a lot more than winchester or federal maybe the thicker case?. :thumbsup:
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by YoungBuck » 12 Jan 2018, 3:41 pm

Daddybang wrote:Or maybe try Fusion brand(yellow and orange pkt) 95gr subs (stated mv of 905fps) if I remember right. Bought some for the missus when the ppu were giving her a bit of grief and she found them much easier. :drinks:

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not lol :lol:
Either way, won't really work for me as the purpose of the rifle will be for larger targets and foxes at extended ranges (130+m) and occasionally mincing some bunnies which I am looking forward to :twisted: .

bladeracer wrote:It just occurred to me, Hornady do a low-recoil line of ammo called "Custom-Lite".
It includes an 87gn SST .243 load.
I have no idea if it's available in Oz.
But I could load some 87gn VMax's at the same velocity and see how they feel.

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/243-win-87-gr-sst-custom-lite#!/

87gn SST at 2800fps.

Thx for the tip - I'll keep an eye out for these mate, trouble with the Hornady rounds is the damn things are at a premium price compared to everything else!
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by bladeracer » 12 Jan 2018, 3:43 pm

YoungBuck wrote:The brother of an in-law might have a break but my barrel isn't threaded... Tikka t3x Lite SS.


If you can have a shot with a braked rifle and think it helps then threading the muzzle is pretty easy to do.

That Hornady Custom-Lite load with the 87gn SST at 2800fps would be more than one-grain lower than ADI's starting load so it should be pretty comfortable.
The Hornady Custom 87gn VMax load is 3240fps for comparison.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Daddybang » 12 Jan 2018, 3:44 pm

Nah not taking the piss :lol: :drinks:
We don't shoot much over100 at home.
Winchester make a 58 gr that's also pretty easy on the shoulder :drinks:
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by bladeracer » 12 Jan 2018, 3:49 pm

YoungBuck wrote:Thx for the tip - I'll keep an eye out for these mate, trouble with the Hornady rounds is the damn things are at a premium price compared to everything else!


That's why we reload ;-)
My bother is using Federal 75gn HP factory ammo for full-power loads, but only until he has a nice batch of brass to reload.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Oldbloke » 12 Jan 2018, 4:56 pm

"That Hornady Custom-Lite load with the 87gn SST at 2800fps would be more than one-grain lower than ADI's starting load so it should be pretty comfortable."

I agree. Ideal for his use too.
Sounds like YB needs to get into reloading.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Daddybang » 12 Jan 2018, 8:42 pm

I think I dropped a 2 off the mv stated above :unknown: :drinks:
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by YoungBuck » 12 Jan 2018, 8:48 pm

Daddybang wrote:I think I dropped a 2 off the mv stated above :unknown: :drinks:

Ah that explains why I though you were taking the piss - 95gr at 980fps :lol: Just Googled it, yes its 2980fps.
Does it really produce a lighter recoil? The PPU 90gr is pretty much the same MV - 2969fps.

edit: scratch that last, it's 3100fps (945m/s).
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Oldbloke » 12 Jan 2018, 9:18 pm

If the ammo you are shooting is about equal to the ADI starting load it will be fairly mild recoil.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Bent Arrow » 12 Jan 2018, 9:24 pm

If the tikka still has the factory recoil pad on it, buy a limbsaver precision first pad for it, should be model 10011. I put one on my tikka T3 Hunter in 25-06 and it made a BIG difference. Screws straight on and fits neatly. I'd be very surprised if you were disappointed
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Daddybang » 12 Jan 2018, 10:31 pm

YoungBuck wrote:
Daddybang wrote:I think I dropped a 2 off the mv stated above :unknown: :drinks:

Ah that explains why I though you were taking the piss - 95gr at 980fps :lol: Just Googled it, yes its 2980fps.
Does it really produce a lighter recoil? The PPU 90gr is pretty much the same MV - 2969fps.

edit: scratch that last, it's 3100fps (945m/s).


That sounds better!!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by YoungBuck » 20 Jan 2018, 9:36 pm

This thread is getting well off topic, but for those following along I did put on an after market recoil pad which has made quite the difference ("Smartcells advanced recoil pad").
I fired 20 x rounds at LR range today and my shoulder is only very slightly sore from it. Far less sore than from the 6 shots last time with the stock pad. Feels more like a pulled muscle now rather than bruising. Could have fired another dozen rounds before getting discomfort I reckon.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Oldbloke » 20 Jan 2018, 10:33 pm

Good. Much better then.
Are the group OK?

Reminds me I need a new one on my 3006 must be 25 yr old. Lol. Gone hard.
Will give the old one a good test tomorrow.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Member-Deleted » 24 Jan 2018, 9:05 am

I’ve been shooting the 95gr SST Hornady factory ammo for $53 dollars a box 20, then changed to 80gr GMX Hornday for $67 dollars a box. My gun hated them so now I’m shooting the 87gr OSA buffalo river at $39 dollars and they shoot great. They have 70gr aswell for around the same price. I wouldn’t go any lighter than that on my .243. As to using lighter rounds for less recoil I’ve never really felt a difference in it with all the rounds I’ve tried over the years with .243 it’s not a real kicker.... Shoot more with it and you’ll get use to it and relax a bit. I have a 45/70 1886 Winchester with a steel butt plate and I have seen people shoot that for the first time and hold it so tight it kills them.
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by YoungBuck » 24 Jan 2018, 10:29 am

Wadogger wrote:now I’m shooting the 87gr OSA buffalo river at $39 dollars and they shoot great.

Of the 3 different ammo brands I shot, the Buffalo River 70gr was the only one to shoot sub MOA. I would now like to get another couple boxes of the 70gr and a box each of the 87gr and 100gr to see how they perform.
Anyone know a Melb GS that sells Buff River ammo for a decent price?
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Re: Cost of lighter projectiles in factory ammo

Post by Oldbloke » 24 Jan 2018, 12:07 pm

Sounds like YB needs to get into reloading...........Am I repeating myself here?

I can load my 3006 with 130gr proj for $17 a box of 20. I never buy ammo. The LGS is asking $33 a box of 20 150 gr plus my fuel to drive to the LGS.

He doesn't sell 130gr ammo only the bullets. So I get what I want this way.

A Lee kit is about $260 from memory. The kit should pay for its self in about 10 boxes.
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Example:
LGS lists 75 gr Hornady vmax at $49 a 100. And ADI lists AR2208 36gr as a middle of the road load. So reloading cost is about $15.40 a box of 20 for you. (not counting your time and brass, but you have that now.)

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