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Post by Die Judicii » 22 Apr 2025, 10:58 pm

What is the most popular Brand, followed by caliber,,,, rifle sought in Aus, regardless of cost ?
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Post by bladeracer » 23 Apr 2025, 5:35 am

Die Judicii wrote:What is the most popular Brand, followed by caliber,,,, rifle sought in Aus, regardless of cost ?


What are we basing it on - what we have or what we want to have?
I own eight Rugers so I guess Ruger is my most sought after brand.
And I have twelve .22LR's so that's my most sought after chambering, followed by nine 6.5mm rifles as my most sought after calibre.
I'm really not seeking any more rifles but I would grab another .357 Mag lever if I find one. I can't think of anything I would want "regardless of cost", but there are a few I'd like if we didn't have the laws we're lumbered with.
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Post by bigrich » 23 Apr 2025, 9:11 am

Tikka 243 or 308 . Ya rarely see them for sale, except the varmit models. After people work out their too heavy to lug around
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Post by geoff » 23 Apr 2025, 10:59 am

I think actual data is hard to come by unless you're in the dealer network

10 or 15 years ago I would have said Rem 700

But for centrefires I presume it's the Tikka T3 series now. Either 223 or 308, prob 223.

I would hazard a guess that the CZ has gotta be a top seller in the 22lr game? If not the Ruger american just on price point
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Post by Blr243 » 23 Apr 2025, 5:02 pm

I think there would b a stack of 223 howas kicking around
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Post by Fester » 23 Apr 2025, 5:36 pm

In centerfires, Howa and Tikka would be up there.
.223 would be a top farm pest rifle, wouldn't it?

Years ago the Rem 700 may have been king.

.243 and .308 could also hold the belts in Aus.
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Post by Die Judicii » 23 Apr 2025, 8:29 pm

bigrich wrote:Tikka 243 or 308 . Ya rarely see them for sale, except the varmit models. After people work out their too heavy to lug around


One of the biggest points I've taken big notice of over the years,, is how some products (regardless of what they are) are'nt commonly
seen advertised 2nd hand.

That is a big telling factor for me, as to how good the product really is.
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Post by bigrich » 24 Apr 2025, 4:52 am

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bigrich wrote:Tikka 243 or 308 . Ya rarely see them for sale, except the varmit models. After people work out their too heavy to lug around


One of the biggest points I've taken big notice of over the years,, is how some products (regardless of what they are) are'nt commonly
seen advertised 2nd hand.

That is a big telling factor for me, as to how good the product really is.


absolutely . the most common 300 win mag rifle i see advertised for sale second hand is the T3 tikka . i don't think some people realise what their getting into with that cal in that weight rifle . :D
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Post by Larry » 24 Apr 2025, 8:20 am

Sako and Anschutz would be my first go to if money is no option.
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Post by 5-0 » 24 Apr 2025, 8:05 pm

I think it would Howa and caliber 223.

Looking what is for sale second hand is false logic, as its stuff people bought but don't use or need. While anecdotal, every one I know owns a 223. (except of course 22lr), but that my be a country vs city thing. As in the country firearms are often tools, not only a sport.

It would good to see the stats from firearm registries, but they are such a mess I don't think they can give a clear report.
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Post by geoff » 24 Apr 2025, 10:43 pm

5-0 wrote:I think it would Howa and caliber 223.

Looking what is for sale second hand is false logic, as its stuff people bought but don't use or need. While anecdotal, every one I know owns a 223. (except of course 22lr), but that my be a country vs city thing. As in the country firearms are often tools, not only a sport.

It would good to see the stats from firearm registries, but they are such a mess I don't think they can give a clear report.


There's only a couple of major distributors that import the big brands so it wouldn't be hard to collate the sales numbers. I imagine that at that level the data is pretty clear. They would be able to tell you in an instant which is #1

Can't see it being public though
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Post by SomeoneElse » 25 Apr 2025, 10:57 am

When I ordered my BLR last year the shop looked up importer backorders. 200 of them in .223, none in .308. That calibre ratio surprised me, so I made sure there was at least one in .308 by the time I left the shop. Only Winchester AU know the final numbers by the time the shipment was dispatched, unless you can find the shipping consignment details. BLRs seem a bit uncommon on the 2nd hand market, so I suspect they are “a keeper” for most buyers. I imagine the XBolt sales are considerably higher than BLR too - this is all just a single non-authoritative data point.

Having said all that and based on what my friends buy, my pure speculation is that the Tikka T3 has probably captured the centerfire zeitgeist of the early 21st century in Aus. Calibre guess would be .223, followed by 6.5CM.

I imagine the Ruger American .22 is well up there in sales as well.

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Post by Die Judicii » 25 Apr 2025, 2:52 pm

5-0 wrote:I think it would Howa and caliber 223.

Looking what is for sale second hand is false logic, as its stuff people bought but don't use or need. While anecdotal, every one I know owns a 223. (except of course 22lr), but that my be a country vs city thing. As in the country firearms are often tools, not only a sport.

It would good to see the stats from firearm registries, but they are such a mess I don't think they can give a clear report.


If your referring to my post, I think you missed my point.
My point was,,,,,,,,,,, What you DON"T see for sale 2nd hand.
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Post by 5-0 » 26 Apr 2025, 1:08 am

Die Judicii wrote:
5-0 wrote:I think it would Howa and caliber 223.

Looking what is for sale second hand is false logic, as its stuff people bought but don't use or need. While anecdotal, every one I know owns a 223. (except of course 22lr), but that my be a country vs city thing. As in the country firearms are often tools, not only a sport.

It would good to see the stats from firearm registries, but they are such a mess I don't think they can give a clear report.


If your referring to my post, I think you missed my point.
My point was,,,,,,,,,,, What you DON"T see for sale 2nd hand.


No, I caught your point, just didn’t think it held much weight. What people sell second-hand doesn’t prove much either way, which was my point… that you missed.
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Post by Bugman » 28 Apr 2025, 4:27 pm

If I had the money and the inclination to use it, either an Anschutz or Sako in 243. I know I'm dreaming but dreaming is quite cheap these days.
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Post by bigrich » 28 Apr 2025, 7:35 pm

Bugman wrote:If I had the money and the inclination to use it, either an Anschutz or Sako in 243. I know I'm dreaming but dreaming is quite cheap these days.


yeah, dreaming is about all i can afford to do at the moment :roll: i've still got a couple of custom builds and purchases i'd like to do ;)
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Post by Die Judicii » 28 Apr 2025, 9:19 pm

Bugman wrote:If I had the money and the inclination to use it, either an Anschutz or Sako in 243. I know I'm dreaming but dreaming is quite cheap these days.


I've worked hard over the last 15 years selling most of the rifles that I bought in younger years,, that had little real thought put into.
As I did so, I gradually bought replacement ones that I've put an awful lot of thought and experience in to.
Along the way I also bought good quality accessories as well.

Now in the twilight years of hunting I find myself looking just as avidly at adverts and in gunshops,, but walking away because I don't need to buy.
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Post by bigrich » 29 Apr 2025, 3:55 am

Die Judicii wrote:
Bugman wrote:If I had the money and the inclination to use it, either an Anschutz or Sako in 243. I know I'm dreaming but dreaming is quite cheap these days.


I've worked hard over the last 15 years selling most of the rifles that I bought in younger years,, that had little real thought put into.
As I did so, I gradually bought replacement ones that I've put an awful lot of thought and experience in to.
Along the way I also bought good quality accessories as well.

Now in the twilight years of hunting I find myself looking just as avidly at adverts and in gunshops,, but walking away because I don't need to buy.


i can relate to that . i've bought/owned/built firearms that have peaked my interest , for historical, technical , or i "just want" reasons , but haven't been really practical at times. i find myself not being as financial these days , or as fit as i was for hunting. i've rationalised my collection into what's truly practical and affordable . can't help the big kid inside me that gets all keen on a new firearm though . but ,like you, i've gotten better at walking away . 444 marlin would be nice but ........ :lol: :roll:
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Post by Wapiti » 29 Apr 2025, 6:35 am

Someone will do a search and find the most sold brands here, and the most purchased ammo calibre surely?

As far as opinions go, they are completely subjective, aren't they?
The latest craze in new firearms designs are 223 only at present, because it's cheap and easy.
For punching holes in paper, people are going to be best served by an accurate round that gives them scores... trajectory and power have no bearing as the scope can be clicked for any trajectory. Exception would be Metallic Silhouette, but even then they complain if you have a cartridge that damages their targets.
The people who have to kill animals for their businesses are after an accurate, adequate cartridge and firearm that is accurate and quick to use and clean/maintain, in a cartridge where suitable ammo is the norm.
And genuine hunters aren't concerned by economics, the one tool they carry has to do the job well in all conditions.

Seems to me, one man's medicine is anothers poison. I reckon the most popular cartridges and firearms are not necessarily better, they are just driven by a market.
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Post by bigrich » 29 Apr 2025, 9:17 am

Wapiti wrote:Someone will do a search and find the most sold brands here, and the most purchased ammo calibre surely?

As far as opinions go, they are completely subjective, aren't they?
The latest craze in new firearms designs are 223 only at present, because it's cheap and easy.
For punching holes in paper, people are going to be best served by an accurate round that gives them scores... trajectory and power have no bearing as the scope can be clicked for any trajectory. Exception would be Metallic Silhouette, but even then they complain if you have a cartridge that damages their targets.
The people who have to kill animals for their businesses are after an accurate, adequate cartridge and firearm that is accurate and quick to use and clean/maintain, in a cartridge where suitable ammo is the norm.
And genuine hunters aren't concerned by economics, the one tool they carry has to do the job well in all conditions.

Seems to me, one man's medicine is anothers poison. I reckon the most popular cartridges and firearms are not necessarily better, they are just driven by a market.


That’s a very good assessment. The bottom line is want versus need, and that differs with people.
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Post by Die Judicii » 30 Apr 2025, 8:34 pm

bigrich wrote:
i can relate to that . i've bought/owned/built firearms that have peaked my interest , for historical, technical , or i "just want" reasons , but haven't been really practical at times. i find myself not being as financial these days , or as fit as i was for hunting. i've rationalised my collection into what's truly practical and affordable . can't help the big kid inside me that gets all keen on a new firearm though . but ,like you, i've gotten better at walking away . 444 marlin would be nice but ........ :lol: :roll:


Seeing as you put it this way,,,,,,,, there are two that I'd like or want,,, but both for non sensical reasons.

Marlin Dark (BL)series 30/30,,,,,,,,, cos they really look nice.
(I had from new an XLR 336 laminate and hated the small loop cos I've got arthritic fingers)

Marlin 45/70,,,,,,,,,, until I saw the cost of factory ammo. Then changed my mind flatout like a lizard drinking. :lol:
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Post by bigrich » 01 May 2025, 4:42 am

Die Judicii wrote:
bigrich wrote:
i can relate to that . i've bought/owned/built firearms that have peaked my interest , for historical, technical , or i "just want" reasons , but haven't been really practical at times. i find myself not being as financial these days , or as fit as i was for hunting. i've rationalised my collection into what's truly practical and affordable . can't help the big kid inside me that gets all keen on a new firearm though . but ,like you, i've gotten better at walking away . 444 marlin would be nice but ........ :lol: :roll:


Seeing as you put it this way,,,,,,,, there are two that I'd like or want,,, but both for non sensical reasons.

Marlin Dark (BL)series 30/30,,,,,,,,, cos they really look nice.
(I had from new an XLR 336 laminate and hated the small loop cos I've got arthritic fingers)

Marlin 45/70,,,,,,,,,, until I saw the cost of factory ammo. Then changed my mind flatout like a lizard drinking. :lol:


i had a 45-70 and wasn't that impressed with it's game performance with 300gn speers on medium game . loaded heavy on the heavy game intended for ,their excellent on buff at closer ranges
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Post by Cape_Yorkee » 10 May 2025, 5:20 pm

You'd have to say Tikka or Howa would be the most popular brands these days. As for cartridge - 223 or maybe the man-bun (6.5 creed)?

Could be wrong, but feel there is a resurgence for the 270Win over the past few years. Maybe not the most popular, but perhaps 'trending'.
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