anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 27 Jul 2018, 10:58 pm

Rod_outbak wrote:For myself, I'd take the .308 first out of those options, any time.
[And then I'd save up and buy a .45-70, and claim it's part of my anti-depression therapy...]

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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by straightshooter » 28 Jul 2018, 7:17 am

Don't underestimate your 223's effectiveness on pigs. Average run of the mill sized pigs no problem for your typical 55 grain soft point loads. Big, heavy, angry pigs would need careful shot placement and/or better constructed projectiles with a back-up being able to run fast if necessary.
As others have noted a 308 will do everything particularly if you are able to select loads for the task.
However I would suggest rather than a 45/70 you may get a lot more enjoyment and fun from a 44mag lever action. It's somewhat overlooked as a suitable caliber for 150 meter shots.
Look at the advantages. Lever actions, like a Marlin for example, have a magazine capacity of 10 shots. Various factory ammo is readily available and not too expensive. If you handload, projectiles and brass are plentiful and also relatively cheap.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigpete » 28 Jul 2018, 7:56 am

in2anity wrote:
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in2anity wrote:45/70 is a lot of gun for a lightweight carry

What makes you say that ?


Well it’s a big pill over crap load of powder :D

Very enjoyable in a 7lb gun:D
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by Supaduke » 29 Jul 2018, 8:54 am

I own both.

A Henry 45-70 and a Howa .308

The Henry is A LOT of fun. The 45 pill is medicine for any living creature that walks this planet.

For practical purposes however, I would have to lean towards a scoped .308 for hunting.

Not that a 45-70 is a bad choice. Simply that a .308 is a better choice.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by SCJ429 » 29 Jul 2018, 11:21 am

The 308 is very practical and capable, I do not have one. I do have a 45/70 in a Ruger #1 and it is heaps of fun. It doesn't give up much more than 200 fps over other more modern 458 cases. While you do know when you have touched off a shot it is not intimidating in the field. I have hit things out to 200 metres, seated using shooting sticks. I have never had to trail anything I have hit, that said my biggest target has been a pig.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 29 Jul 2018, 12:49 pm

I have shot things out to 200 with my 45-70 its not my preferred rifle for the job but easily do able. Have chopped a few foxes in half with it. But as a few people have said 308 i prefer for distance 45-70 for scrub.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by in2anity » 29 Jul 2018, 5:52 pm

If you do get a 45/70 and are expecting to practically use it across a variety of distances, be aware you’ll need to practice with it quite a bit to learn the drop - that luepold CDS feature can help with this - once you’ve nailed down your load order a little CDS turret to match it
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigrich » 31 Jul 2018, 4:41 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:G'day BangBangSkeetSkeet,
I have some of both, and would always lean towards the 308 if I was limited to only one. My reasoning is the versatility of the 308 for hunting every type of game animal in Australia, with better accuracy at all practical ranges. The ability to load for specific game with the 308, it ease of carry and use, ease of scope mounting and choice win out over any 45/70. Not as much fun, though. And you must consider fun. Cheers.


this statement pretty well sums it up i reckon. seeing as how it was my cva that got ya thinking BBSS, i'll add a bit more. 45-70 is a lot of fun,when ya see big geysers of dirt exploding behind ya targets at the range it makes me giggle :lol: my cva with scope is about 8 1/2 pound, recoil is a tad more than my 12 ga with clay loads. i haven't had a chance to use it on a hunt yet, with a 1.5-4.5 x 20 scope i would limit my shots to 120-150 yards.but by christ it'll be the hammer of Thor when it hits :lol: i bought it as a replacement for a 30-30 mod '94 i had, thinking it would anchor game on the spot a bit better in scrub country. as a all rounder, IMHO ya 308 choice would be more versatile, and MUCH cheaper to shoot if you don't reload. a mate of mine has a new 308 steyr that shoots mighty impressively . my own all rounder for deer/pigs on down is 6.5x55. been working up loads for that recently and am really impressed at what it can do. but ya just can't have too many toys. 1976 mod 70 winchester xtr in 222 on it's way as we speak. :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 04 Sep 2018, 10:59 pm

Just by way of an update fellas, I thank you all for your input. After weighing it all up I went with the.308, for which I had an existing PTA. I hope to do more hunting with it than range shooting and I think 308 offers me more versatility there than the 45-70. I picked it up today, a Howa 'Gunsite Scout' with Williams peep sight, 10 round mag, 1:10, 18.5 " heavy barrel. It's not a 'scout' rifle as that term is enforced by the cognoscenti but it feels and handles like it's going to be a useful scrub carbine able to poke holes in things out to 300-400 with 'minute of boiler room' accuracy or better.
I picked up some Hornady Whitetail 150gr SP and some OSA 135gr HP and can't wait for the weekend to break it in.

and in unrelated developments, my dad is downsizing and is giving me his Anschutz .177 air rifle (the rifle I learned to shoot with) and his safe - just as well since my 3 gun safe is now full
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigrich » 05 Sep 2018, 8:14 am

Timely post BBSS, I traded my 45-70 cva in on a 308 Ruger Gunsite Scout . As others have said, more versatile, especially in a stainless, laminate package. It’s essentially a modern scoped 303 Jungle Carbine. Quite accurate and reasonably light as well
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 05 Sep 2018, 1:46 pm

oooh, I see a future shoot-off at Ripley in the cards
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigrich » 05 Sep 2018, 2:19 pm

BangBangSkeetSkeet wrote:oooh, I see a future shoot-off at Ripley in the cards


Anytime mate, always good fun to have a friendly competition. I don’t mind chatting guns with people either. Name your time. You sir , are hereby challenged! . Lol
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 05 Sep 2018, 4:07 pm

Well, you're already points ahead on looks alone - mine is just blued with the Hogue black rubber stock - on the plus side, it may look similar enough to my 223 that its presence in the safe will continue to go unnoticed.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigrich » 05 Sep 2018, 4:21 pm

BangBangSkeetSkeet wrote:Well, you're already points ahead on looks alone - mine is just blued with the Hogue black rubber stock - on the plus side, it may look similar enough to my 223 that its presence in the safe will continue to go unnoticed.


mate , i bin looking for a compact ute/scrub gun with the same feel /handiness of a 30-30 winchester 94, but easily scoped and a bit better firepower and ballistics than a 30-30. these carbine "scout rifles " seem to fit the bill. i did a post on mine, but put it under the wrong heading. it's under "new ruger american 22wmr " , or something like that :thumbsup:
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by BangBangSkeetSkeet » 05 Sep 2018, 4:55 pm

found it... viewtopic.php?f=71&t=9982&p=172612#p172612
yeah, that looks a wee bit more polished than mine. I'll be happy if mine group that well.
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Re: anyone own a 308 and a 45-70?

Post by bigrich » 05 Sep 2018, 5:32 pm

try the 130 gr federal "eagle" hollow points. recoil is mild and they seem pretty accurate. then again, most hollow points are :thumbsup:
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