What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by SCJ429 » 19 Aug 2018, 7:32 pm

Nice shooting Flyer, but what happened to the fifth shot?
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Flyer » 19 Aug 2018, 8:06 pm

bigrich wrote:ya got any more cartridge interpretations flyer ? :lol: what does a 45-70 look like ? melissa macarthy :lol:

45-70? That's been around since about 1 million yeas BC, hasn't it?

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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Flyer » 19 Aug 2018, 8:11 pm

SCJ429 wrote:Nice shooting Flyer, but what happened to the fifth shot?

I usually shoot 4-shot groups when I test load. It's more indicative than 3 shots, and if they shoot good into 4, they usually shoot good into 5. The main problems I have with 5-shot groups when load developing is they use up a lot of brass and projectiles if you want to cover a bit of ground (I shot 6x 4-shot groups today from 42.8-44.8gr 2209 with 123 Lapua Scenars); it takes longer waiting for the barrel to cool down; and I often fudge the fifth shot anyway as it's hard to shoot precisely and consistently for strings on end. Once I find something that works, I start to load around it and shoot a few more to ensure its repeatable.

It's not easy removing the human factor (was it the load, or did I pull that?) as well as the wind in trying to find something that works.
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by SCJ429 » 19 Aug 2018, 8:41 pm

Fair enough, I thought it might be a Flyer. Do you have some sort of wind flag when you test? It can help cut down some errors.
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by bigrich » 19 Aug 2018, 8:49 pm

Flyer wrote:
bigrich wrote:ya got any more cartridge interpretations flyer ? :lol: what does a 45-70 look like ? melissa macarthy :lol:

45-70? That's been around since about 1 million yeas BC, hasn't it?

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yup 45-70's a got a real nice case alright. i wont judge ya 6.5 manbun too harshly .go the 6.5's . here's some of my better 6.5 x55 handloads, 6.5 brother :D . these were shot on a moderately windy day at 100. shot my 22 hornet the same day and POI moved 70 mm to the right with that ! (damn i wish i knew how to post "case" pics. would post kate beckinsale from " van helsing" movie. do yourself a favor and google ;) ) :thumbsup:
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by bigrich » 19 Aug 2018, 10:11 pm

what rifle is ya 6.5 anyway flyer ? that's a good group :thumbsup:
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Flyer » 19 Aug 2018, 11:17 pm

SCJ429 wrote:Fair enough, I thought it might be a Flyer. Do you have some sort of wind flag when you test? It can help cut down some errors.

Yeah, but it's at 200m, so all I've got at 100m to judge are some leafy branches, lol!

Here's the rest of the target from today. Yes, they call me "Flyer" :lol: Indeed, some of these were looking promising until the fourth shot, as you can see. But 43.2gr was the standout on the day. And I'm not joking - every flyer was on the fourth shot, lol.

bigrich, it's a Sako A7 Roughtech Pro in black and stainless. I'm not usually a big fan of synthetic stocks, but it's a nicely balanced rifle.

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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Flyer » 20 Aug 2018, 12:15 am

bigrich wrote:(damn i wish i knew how to post "case" pics. would post kate beckinsale from " van helsing" movie. do yourself a favor and google ;) ) :thumbsup:


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Here you go.

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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by bigrich » 20 Aug 2018, 4:43 am

:lol: good on ya flyer. Sako is a quality bit of gear. For accuracy tests for hunting purposes, I only bother with three shots. After that anything in the field is long gone anyway. Except goats. They just seem to amble off. That fourth shot flyer would be annoying but. Rifles are individuals at times and do funny things. In my 6.5 model 70 after three shots POI begins to move around anti clockwise in a circle as the barrel heats up. I put 10 shots through it once just to see the results. Put a heavier barrel on ya Sako if it annoys you too much
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by bigrich » 20 Aug 2018, 4:44 am

Thanks for the late beckinsale post :thumbsup:
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Oryx Pit » 20 Aug 2018, 12:58 pm

Flyer wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:Nice shooting Flyer, but what happened to the fifth shot?

I usually shoot 4-shot groups when I test load. It's more indicative than 3 shots, and if they shoot good into 4, they usually shoot good into 5. The main problems I have with 5-shot groups when load developing is they use up a lot of brass and projectiles if you want to cover a bit of ground (I shot 6x 4-shot groups today from 42.8-44.8gr 2209 with 123 Lapua Scenars); it takes longer waiting for the barrel to cool down; and I often fudge the fifth shot anyway as it's hard to shoot precisely and consistently for strings on end. Once I find something that works, I start to load around it and shoot a few more to ensure its repeatable.

It's not easy removing the human factor (was it the load, or did I pull that?) as well as the wind in trying to find something that works.


Nice shooting Flyer. Those 123 Scenars can be temperamental buggers. Shoot good when dialed in though.
What MV you getting with that load?
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Flyer » 20 Aug 2018, 2:00 pm

I can only guess, as I don't have a a chrono, but most of the load data I've collected tells me it should be in the 2850fps range. The actual load is 123gr Lapua Scenar, 43.2gr of 2209, Lapua small primer cases, CCI BR4 primers, seat 2.850", or 0.015" off the lands.

That was the low node. There was a higher node at 44.4gr that looked like it might have potential, and I went as high as 44.8gr with no pressure signs. But as I'm looking for a target load out to 200m for Field Rifle, I'm happy with accuracy at the lower MV. It will be a bit easier on the barrel, and I plan to put a few shots through this rifle. Hornady 143 EDL X is the next projectile to try.
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Mick280 » 20 Aug 2018, 4:27 pm

Flyer wrote:
bigrich wrote:ya got any more cartridge interpretations flyer ? :lol: what does a 45-70 look like ? melissa macarthy :lol:

45-70? That's been around since about 1 million yeas BC, hasn't it?

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It has!!
Still shoots and still gaining popularity!!
50m with buckhorn sights!!
405 gn Casts at 1400 fps!!
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by bigrich » 20 Aug 2018, 6:02 pm

Mick280 wrote:
Flyer wrote:
bigrich wrote:ya got any more cartridge interpretations flyer ? :lol: what does a 45-70 look like ? melissa macarthy :lol:

45-70? That's been around since about 1 million yeas BC, hasn't it?

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It has!!
Still shoots and still gaining popularity!!
50m with buckhorn sights!!
405 gn Casts at 1400 fps!!


just gotta love old school shooters :thumbsup:
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Re: What's everyone's favourite cartridge and why?

Post by Mick280 » 20 Aug 2018, 7:31 pm

bigrich wrote:
Mick280 wrote:
Flyer wrote:
bigrich wrote:ya got any more cartridge interpretations flyer ? :lol: what does a 45-70 look like ? melissa macarthy :lol:

45-70? That's been around since about 1 million yeas BC, hasn't it?

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It has!!
Still shoots and still gaining popularity!!
50m with buckhorn sights!!
405 gn Casts at 1400 fps!!


just gotta love old school shooters :thumbsup:

True that Mate.
I find I'm shooting my old school gear a lot more than the more modern stuff these days,
Puts I bit bigger smile on my face I reckon!! :thumbsup:
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