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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 08 Aug 2019, 6:25 am

quote--what a 2 ounce plus bullet looks like

Yep and here we also use 585 Minie bullets at high speed for deer, target and

exploding 15 gal water barrels... 540 gr over 3000 is explosive., and as long

as speed is way up there is no leading with hard alloy bullets.. Ed

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 17 Sep 2019, 11:23 pm

Got guys doing various 416 HEs..

One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days..

And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good

conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within

a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges

had same accuracy. Ed..
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 24 Nov 2019, 7:02 pm

More about our 416 HSM from BMG brass, and
our 416 HE & 460 HE from our 585 HE cases
Got reamers for 375 HE, 416 HE and 416 HSM,....

460 HE & 460 HSM are all spec'd, got HE reamer
soon have HSM reamer...Our HSMs have a Wea type
radius on the shoulder..

The fellow that set up our 416 HE in an ELR rifle
and got 1/4 min accuracy,
They got some game out west over 1400 yds..
.Here is the gun they set up.
Using a K&P 34" barrel on a BAT action.....Ed

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 24 Nov 2019, 7:05 pm

Here is our 416 HSM next to Barrett...

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 25 Nov 2019, 10:40 am

The 416s for long range, HE and HSM......
Guy did a 416 HE, this fall, in testing it
in good conditions, and had
a 1/4 of minute accuracy...

More about our 416 HSM from BMG brass, and
our 416 HE & a 460 HE from our 585 HE cases
Got reamers for 375 HE, 416 HE and 416 HSM,....

460 HE & 460 HSM are all spec'd, got HE reamer
soon have HSM reamer...Our HSMs have a Wea type
radius on the shoulder..

The fellow that set up our 416 HE in an ELR rifle
and got 1/4 min accuracy,
They got some game out west over 1400 yds..
.Here is the gun they set up.
Using a K&P 34" barrel on a BAT action.....Ed

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by SCJ429 » 25 Nov 2019, 8:23 pm

Thanks for sharing, I remember reading about your work on Accurate Shooter. Interesting muzzle break on the Bat actioned rifle.
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 28 Nov 2019, 1:51 am

And have 460 HSM specs figured out, the impetus for that is some
asking about one, and new, great line of 458 bullets CEB now has.
It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM.....Ed..
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 24 Jan 2020, 7:07 pm

The guys that did the super accurate 416 HE did another
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used a Stiller action and same load with 475 gr bullet, as in
first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is print with specs for
the 416 HE reamer chamber ....Ed....

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 12 Feb 2020, 12:15 am

More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used
in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture.......Ed....


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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 13 Jul 2020, 11:42 am

Here is print with chamber reamer specs for the
416 HSM chamber..There are 3 base sizes we have,
depending on actions used. Got reamers for all 3..
Got cases for all of them..
Our cases are public domain, so that is why I post
info and specs. Manson makes reamers I use,,, Ed.

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 26 Jul 2020, 5:43 am

Here is reamer print with chamber reamer specs for
the 460 HSM chamber .Couple guys getting set
to do 38-40 inch heavy 458 target barrels...Ed....
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 05 Aug 2020, 12:05 pm

HERE is 585 HE guy put in the Choate stock..Ed.
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by Bugman » 09 Aug 2020, 4:49 pm

I though it was the Number 585 express to some suburb in the States called Hubel. My ignorance has shown through and I stand corrected. C'mon people, it's wet and cold at the moment and I am bored. :lol:
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by duncan61 » 09 Aug 2020, 8:55 pm

When enquiring about range day and can a 14 year old participate I was asked what chambering.I had to put .585 Hubel Express.I could not help myself
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by TassieTiger » 10 Aug 2020, 8:41 pm

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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by marksman » 11 Aug 2020, 12:19 pm

it definitely would not be like owning a blackpowder cannon :unknown:
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 22 Aug 2020, 6:13 am

With 40 inch barrel 416 HSM ,475 gr, get 3650, over 13,000 ft lbs muzzle energy.
Got guys getting set to have 38-40 inch 458 barrels made for 460 HSM.Ed..
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 02 Sep 2020, 12:09 am

More info on this gun, we did it for testing 416 HSM with a rebated rim,
to check in intermediate size actions, with the longer, stronger, bolt lugs, Ed..
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 23 Sep 2020, 3:03 am

Here is experimental action for 416 HSM in a heavy
stock....We lengthened port a little, set bolt stop back ,
opened bolt face fit the 416 HSM rebated rim. Ed.
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Here is comparison of Montana PH to Pierce action we
modified to use for rebated rim 416 HSM testing..Ed.
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 17 Jan 2021, 2:59 pm

& 460 HE AND 416 & 460 HSM .LONG RANGE AND HUNTING
Can be set up in  Pierce  X10  ACTION for the 416 & 460 HE  
AND X20 action for the 416 & 460 HSM , Can get those
if guys need one...Ed
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Re: 585 Hubel Express

Post by hubel585 » 26 Apr 2021, 10:24 am

Here is picture of my 416 HSM test gun,... It is a big falling block we had
as a 8 bore years ago. Has a 34 inch , 1 5/8 "diameter, 1 to 10 twist barrel. .. Ed.
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