Would you use an 80gr pill in a 270 (for velocitywhores)

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Would you use an 80gr pill in a 270 (for velocitywhores)

Post by Medic » 02 Nov 2018, 2:46 pm

Sooo, for those aren’t heavy pill-on-the-brain... and for 270 owners.

After checking a Bazzilion ballistics charts, there are two very flat shooting calibers that really stand out.

One of course is the 243 with a 55 grain pill going 4050fps. Has minimal drop out to 400 when sighted in at 200 yards. It’s almost impossible to beat in terms of trajectory.

The next closest I keep coming back to is a 270 with a 90grain pill, at 3600 FPS. Now I have a 270 and run those, it’s flat to 200 and absolutely wallops everything, including deer. But has a bit more drop out at 300 and 400, but is still manageable. There really is nothing like stupid velocities to bring something to a screaming halt, having used almost all pull weights, for shooting dogs with NV I want flat and fast.

Would any 270 owners consider trying a 75 or 80grain pill, some load development required, if I could get them made? I might know a guy, but to tool up might cost a bit. Not sure if they will be BT or flat base yet. But we’ll see. Just wondering if this might interest someone else?

No need to ask “why wouldn’t you use a 110 or 130”. Because I don’t. 90s are good in my vanguard.
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Post by RoginaJack » 02 Nov 2018, 8:44 pm

Should be deadly on dogs, foxes and Hog deer etc...
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Post by Baz460 » 02 Nov 2018, 9:09 pm

Would be awesome.
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Post by grandadbushy » 03 Nov 2018, 7:40 am

What's the reason for wanting so much speed ?
They should be dynamite in close ie 100-250yds
I had 25-06 and went to 75gr but too touchy in the breeze 5-10 knot breeze would put them way off target
You can only but try and see probably big expense for little gain
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Post by SCJ429 » 03 Nov 2018, 11:09 am

What did your research say about a 204 Ruger shooting a 32 grain projectile? It should be neck and neck with the 243. The heavy hitter would be the 30/378 Weatherby or a RUM shooting 150 or 160 grain pills. They would be pretty flat out to 400.
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Post by SCJ429 » 03 Nov 2018, 11:52 am

Did you look at any of the fast 224s? I would have thought a 220 Swift or 22 Dasher would have featured in your quest to shoot flat to 400. they are pretty devastating on small game.
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Post by duncan61 » 03 Nov 2018, 10:24 pm

My LGS has Winchester ballistic silvertips in 55 gn in stock.Might have to take a pack to the block next Wednesday I went there today to work on the ute and it was being slashed.In 2 weeks it will be ready for foxing.Be interesting to see how accurate 55gn is in .243.I had never considered it to be a speed machine.I have a $700 HOWA so if it gets worn out it does not matter
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Post by Medic » 05 Nov 2018, 4:08 pm

duncan61 wrote:My LGS has Winchester ballistic silvertips in 55 gn in stock.Might have to take a pack to the block next Wednesday I went there today to work on the ute and it was being slashed.In 2 weeks it will be ready for foxing.Be interesting to see how accurate 55gn is in .243.I had never considered it to be a speed machine.I have a $700 HOWA so if it gets worn out it does not matter


Yeah behind 2206H its apparently 4050FPS. Zero'd at 200 yards it is ridiculously flat. Holding nearly 800 ft/lbs at 400yrds, makes it absolutely lethal.
I'm thinking after seeing all these wildcats, looking at all the options, 243 with a 55gr pill is really, really hard to beat. I wonder how fast/hard I could push a 270, or maybe a 26 inch barrel on a 243. Even the 25-06 or the 6mm-284 isn't any faster than a 243 with a 55gr pill. Funny how that works out. Please keep me posted of your results.
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Post by Medic » 21 Nov 2018, 12:28 pm

Just an update- I spent a lot of time mucking around with this, even considered swaging... however, I think the money will be better spent on simply getting a 6mm-06 on a long action receiver. Can’t argue with 4100fps with a 70gr vmax and up to 4500fps with a 55-65 gr pill. 1/14 twist. Who needs barrel life! I’ll get a 28in so I can set throat back as it wears. So who has a 6mm-06 reamer??? :D
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Nov 2018, 2:10 pm

Medic wrote:Just an update- I spent a lot of time mucking around with this, even considered swaging... however, I think the money will be better spent on simply getting a 6mm-06 on a long action receiver. Can’t argue with 4100fps with a 70gr vmax and up to 4500fps with a 55-65 gr pill. 1/14 twist. Who needs barrel life! I’ll get a 28in so I can set throat back as it wears. So who has a 6mm-06 reamer??? :D


http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/220-cal-246-cal-nopix-chamber-reamers/6186-243-06-reamer.html

I would suggest you just turn some brass bullets on the lathe and try them yourself.
But going so light drops BC, which reduces your range, and increases wind drift.
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Post by RoginaJack » 21 Nov 2018, 2:39 pm

Yo Duncann61, how did the 55gr pills go in the 243W. and what did you try them on? Interested how it would perform on feral dogs. I'm currently using 75gr. HP. Speer.
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