SCJ429 wrote:Bit hard on the 45/70 there Mick, the 458 is only about 200 fps faster than the old girl.
SCJ429 wrote:A bit more not a lot more. The 458 is no powerhouse either. The 450 Rigby sends a 600 grain projectile faster than the 458 can send a 400 grain.
cracker wrote:SCJ429 wrote:A bit more not a lot more. The 458 is no powerhouse either. The 450 Rigby sends a 600 grain projectile faster than the 458 can send a 400 grain.
45/70
300 (strong) JHP 2,275 ft/s (693 m/s) 3,449 ft⋅lbf (4,676 J)
458winmag
400 gr (26 g) FN 2,468 ft/s (752 m/s) 5,411 ft⋅lbf (7,336 J)
theres abit in it...
best thing about 458 winmag is getting it reamed to 458 lott, only reason i brought one.
450 rigby sounds like abit of a power house too, just too much alike to what iv allready got.
Farmerpete wrote:So after searching through my local gunshops i have two contenders one has a 7600 in 30 06 the other has a big bore winchester 94 in 375 price is about the same both guns are in good condition which one would you get
SCJ429 wrote:A bit more not a lot more. The 458 is no powerhouse either. The 450 Rigby sends a 600 grain projectile faster than the 458 can send a 400 grain.
SCJ429 wrote:You need to compare apples with apples or you flatter the 458. The 45/70 shoots a 300 grain pill at 2550 fps, at least my Ruger #1 does, the 458 can squeeze 2750 fps out of it.
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Oldbloke wrote:After reading all of the above my shoulder hurts.
Im calling my surgeon for a shoulder reconstruction.
Lol
TassieTiger wrote:A good mate of mine has 12 firearms including a 45/70 and 30-06 pump...
The 45/70 - whilst a great fun gun - comes out of his safe maybe once a year...if that. It doesn’t really do anything better (or close to) than a more conventional rifle. Its like an artillery trajectory curve with 400+ gns