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300 Norma, 300 RUM, 300 win, 300 WSM

Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jun 2019, 9:07 am

Considering a new rifle...in the 300 group for long distance fun - some heavier projectiles (200-250gn) down range. Platform still to be decided, will be reloading, 26 inch barrel, not sure for certain - but would like to try without a brake at least to start with.

I have no experience with any of the proposed, other than haven taken a couple of shots here and there with a friends 300 win.

Kicking around the following;
300 Norma, 300 win, 300 Rum and 300 WSM.

For those that have some know how - what would your preferences be and why?
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Post by SCJ429 » 09 Jun 2019, 9:33 am

The 300 WSM is probably the most accurate there. The 300 RUM has the case capacity to get heavy pills motivated. Also consider the 300 Lapua Magnum or the 300/378 Weatherby. Both need a big bolt but the Weatherby MK5 action is available and makes a nice base for a project rifle.
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 09 Jun 2019, 10:03 am

You know bigger the calibre and amount of powder bigger the recoil. Its just like cars, people go let's pour a bigger turbo on (more lag) sports shocks (bumpy ride) then don't drive their cat day to day as it...as veri hard to live with.

I would suggest 6.5manbun or a 6mm (not 243). If you really set on those options 300wm more factory rifle choice and more reloading options easier to find. Btw there is a baretta 338 lapua for sale with a nightforce scope on it
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Post by flutch » 09 Jun 2019, 11:04 am

Plenty of WSM fans on this site, don't agree with them about "outstanding accuracy" purely given most long range hunters and quite a lot of other enthusiasts stick to the 300win, there are reasons for that too, the WSM lacks powder capacity to drive projies as heavy as you're proposing and most in the know advise people to stay down around the 165gn weight for that cartridge, the 300rum really drives them home but is woefully loud, high recoiling and throws a muzzle flash that is nearly blinding. The Norma is pretty well balanced, but from where I stand I would stick to the 300win for price, data, options, brass choice, etc etc etc... Also cheaper in most cases.
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Post by marksman » 09 Jun 2019, 11:04 am

I have a thing for the 300wm myself having owned a few I have found them tolerable to shoot 180gr/200gr projectiles at 2950fps very very precisely at very long ranges
I know a few comp shooters who have successfully used the 300wsm but usually if you got into a talk about it someone would come out with why not a 7mm wsm at some stage, I thought about that for quite some time and ended up converting my at the time 300wm long action into a 270wsm to shoot 150gr bullets very fast and flat I have never looked back, this rifle had just started to throw a shot every now and then at longer ranges so was ready IMO for a rebarrel and being a long action as most 300wm's are I had trouble with loading long coal's and using vld bullets. if I were to have another 300wm I would get a magnum action to start for this reason, the 270 cal is a true 7mm but you can get the cases for a 270wsm or as I have done in the past make them from 300wsm cases by a simple full length sizing in a 270wsm die. I have heard the story's that the 270 cal does not have as many projectiles to pick from but really you only need one type that works
the problem with the fast big cals when meat hunting is the damage that happens from kinetic shock and that's why you will see me usually using my 30-06 or smaller for food hunting but for fun just join the military rifle club and get a 50cal or just join and have a shot of the other guys guns, their not bad bloke's and will share

the action I would be looking at if going custom is this https://defiancemachine.com/actions/
I would also have the 26" barrel at a minimum length as most custom barrels are longer and why not have a barrel at 27/28" or longer if you can

if you were to want a factory rifle I would suggest a sendaro in 300wm and tweak the crap out of it but be prepared to change the barrel if it wont shoot
I would also consider a howa 300wm as you can get a decent oal from that mag length

all good fun good luck with it :drinks:
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Post by duncan61 » 09 Jun 2019, 1:04 pm

+1 for the Sendero.Mine is in 7mm Rem Mag and as a target rifle it is Superb for my ability.I did a Buffalo Safari about 10 years ago and had to buy ammo in Katherine and all I could get was 160 Highland PSP but they did the job.Shot a very big boar as well
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Post by SCJ429 » 09 Jun 2019, 3:16 pm

Ziad wrote:You know bigger the calibre and amount of powder bigger the recoil. Its just like cars, people go let's pour a bigger turbo on (more lag) sports shocks (bumpy ride) then don't drive their cat day to day as it...as veri hard to live with.

I would suggest 6.5manbun or a 6mm (not 243). If you really set on those options 300wm more factory rifle choice and more reloading options easier to find. Btw there is a baretta 338 lapua for sale with a nightforce scope on it



He already has a 260 so I am guessing he doesn't need a Creedmoor and the 30/06 takes care of most things in Tassie. I am guessing he is looking for a big booming 30 cal like a RUM or Edge or a Lapua.
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Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jun 2019, 6:21 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
Ziad wrote:You know bigger the calibre and amount of powder bigger the recoil. Its just like cars, people go let's pour a bigger turbo on (more lag) sports shocks (bumpy ride) then don't drive their cat day to day as it...as veri hard to live with.

I would suggest 6.5manbun or a 6mm (not 243). If you really set on those options 300wm more factory rifle choice and more reloading options easier to find. Btw there is a baretta 338 lapua for sale with a nightforce scope on it



He already has a 260 so I am guessing he doesn't need a Creedmoor and the 30/06 takes care of most things in Tassie. I am guessing he is looking for a big booming 30 cal like a RUM or Edge or a Lapua.


Correct. Thanks.
I’ve just acquired a large new safe lol.

Thanks for replies - interesting food for thought. Being a dumb ass I didn’t even really think of the meat damage from the shock...but just as you’ve said above, this won’t be my go to hunting, more of a project build over time, for long range boooming.

Did not know about the Norma as such and as you’ve said flutch, from research the WSM May be out - the win or rum might be the choice but looking at easily available brass options - win is becoming a front runner here...
Cheers for all thoughts thus far.
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Post by bigrich » 09 Jun 2019, 6:49 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:
Ziad wrote:You know bigger the calibre and amount of powder bigger the recoil. Its just like cars, people go let's pour a bigger turbo on (more lag) sports shocks (bumpy ride) then don't drive their cat day to day as it...as veri hard to live with.

I would suggest 6.5manbun or a 6mm (not 243). If you really set on those options 300wm more factory rifle choice and more reloading options easier to find. Btw there is a baretta 338 lapua for sale with a nightforce scope on it



He already has a 260 so I am guessing he doesn't need a Creedmoor and the 30/06 takes care of most things in Tassie. I am guessing he is looking for a big booming 30 cal like a RUM or Edge or a Lapua.


Correct. Thanks.
I’ve just acquired a large new safe lol.

Thanks for replies - interesting food for thought. Being a dumb ass I didn’t even really think of the meat damage from the shock...but just as you’ve said above, this won’t be my go to hunting, more of a project build over time, for long range boooming.

Did not know about the Norma as such and as you’ve said flutch, from research the WSM May be out - the win or rum might be the choice but looking at easily available brass options - win is becoming a front runner here...
Cheers for all thoughts thus far.


availability of brass and projectiles is a consideration. i've recently bin looking for a new toy ," just because" more than anything, and i was looking at a 375 win xtr lever and a 444 marlin 336 at my local gunshop. but brass is not cheap or easy to get and projectile choice is limited . i'm not comfortable with those facts so i'll keep looking . good luck with your decision taz . actually i just thought of a old school thumper , not long range , but 8mm rem mag is a beast . i had a mate who had one years ago. beleive it or not a local smith reamed out a turkish mauser for him. it was only single shot cause the bullet was waaaay to long for the 8x57 mag, but it worked . i still have one of the spent shells . i believe 300 win would be a good choice for you taz

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Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jun 2019, 7:26 pm

Cheers- yes, the more I read above and online - the 300 win is looking the goods.
Love the look of those actions MM put up - very nice !!!
PTA will be going in Tuesday...now sure of platform as yet...but Rem 7, Howa or I guess the obligatory tikka...would be best for my needs.
I think I have a problem...lol
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Post by SCJ429 » 09 Jun 2019, 7:33 pm

Don't get something ordinary, get something no one else in Tasmania has. Stuff brass availability and practicality, you have other rifles for that. Get a Lazzeroni Warbird and build it on a Stiller action. No one you run into will have heard of one much less have seen one.
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Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jun 2019, 8:09 pm

SCJ429 wrote:Don't get something ordinary, get something no one else in Tasmania has. Stuff brass availability and practicality, you have other rifles for that. Get a Lazzeroni Warbird and build it on a Stiller action. No one you run into will have heard of one much less have seen one.


I’d love to walk that path and build a special, and most definitely will one day, but I need to acknowledge my experience and limitations- I just don’t know enough to build up a custom rifle. I’m still learning to crawl...
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Post by bigrich » 09 Jun 2019, 8:26 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
SCJ429 wrote:Don't get something ordinary, get something no one else in Tasmania has. Stuff brass availability and practicality, you have other rifles for that. Get a Lazzeroni Warbird and build it on a Stiller action. No one you run into will have heard of one much less have seen one.


I’d love to walk that path and build a special, and most definitely will one day, but I need to acknowledge my experience and limitations- I just don’t know enough to build up a custom rifle. I’m still learning to crawl...


sometimes having something "exclusive" or rare and unusal can backfire if you need parts or accessories . when i first got back into firearms i started collecting old krico sporters and such . but i soon relised if i needed a spare mag or firing pin they are like hens teeth to find . there is plenty of choice in 300 win mag platforms for distance shooting . tikka has a well proven range at affordable prices . my tastes are different , i wish i had of bought some of the winchester 70 magnum actions i've seen for sale online from time to time . :roll:
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Post by TassieTiger » 09 Jun 2019, 9:19 pm

I know the 300 win is a step up in terms of case capacity, etc - just wondering if it’s a far enough step up and over of the 30-06 I already own...from what I’ve read, the WM iS approx 250fps better than the 06 for same weight projectile which equates to an extra 100 yards or so of useable range. Not really a huge leap forward...
Hmmmm decisions...decisions.
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Post by bigrich » 09 Jun 2019, 9:28 pm

how's 7mm rem mag shape up for distance shooting ?
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Post by bigrich » 09 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm

y'know taz TIKKA T3X 300 WIN MAG on ozgunsales for $4459 in tassie that might be what your looking for :D

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Post by duncan61 » 09 Jun 2019, 10:19 pm

The 7mm goes well as a long range target rifle just the recoil after 16 odd shots starts to kick in
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Post by marksman » 09 Jun 2019, 10:44 pm

I would seriously suggest do not go the tikka 300wm, it cannot load good coals for the 300wm
you may as well just stay with the 30-06 and IMHO the 300wm kills the 30-06 running at 2950fps or thereabouts with a 180gr projectile
mine ran at those speeds using 72 gr of ar2213sc single digit sd and one hole performance out to 200yd
as I earlier wrote I had my last 300wm turned into a 270 wsm because it had been such a good accurate rifle
I chose the 270 wsm because it is a case I could load the projectiles out for maximum advantage and I am very happy I did
the howa is one I am looking at because you can load out to 3,5"/89mm which is an optimum coal for that round I have found
I missed one on used guns that someone with knowledge had set up nicely and am kicking myself that I just didn't get it
going the store route I calculated that for my tastes it was going to cost around the $1200
not to bad at price but I would still be doing some adjusting and tweeking myself in that price
coal is a really important thing to consider when talking the 300wm
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Post by flutch » 09 Jun 2019, 10:57 pm

TassieTiger wrote:I know the 300 win is a step up in terms of case capacity, etc - just wondering if it’s a far enough step up and over of the 30-06 I already own...from what I’ve read, the WM iS approx 250fps better than the 06 for same weight projectile which equates to an extra 100 yards or so of useable range. Not really a huge leap forward...
Hmmmm decisions...decisions.


Where the 300win shines over both the WSM and the 06 is larger projies and reach, that extra powder capacity does a lot to really shove those bigger projies along for further in the supersonic range. And you do notice the extra oomf in regards to other "deer" cartridges, I have a 270 that is pretty damn flat shooting with 130gn projies pushing over 3100fps but the 300win shooting 150gn projies at 3200+fps is something I had to get used to, so flat it's almost confusing at first. But then you can still push large projies over 2850fps giving a really nice dope for long distance stuff, whereas the WSM and 30-06 would be closer to 2400fps and 2600fps being optimistic, with stability issues no doubt as they end up transonic sooner.
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Post by Nigel » 10 Jun 2019, 11:26 pm

Have you considered 300 PRC? It's basically a new and improved 300 Win Mag: no belt, 30 degree shoulder, slightly more powder capacity.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/300-prc-better-than-the-rest/330587
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Post by SCJ429 » 10 Jun 2019, 11:54 pm

Nigel wrote:Have you considered 300 PRC? It's basically a new and improved 300 Win Mag: no belt, 30 degree shoulder, slightly more powder capacity.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/300-prc-better-than-the-rest/330587


I love how the article states that the 300 Norma is a necked down 338 Lapua. Silly me for thinking that Lapua would call it the 300 Lapua. I wonder what Norma would call the 338 Norma case.
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Post by Nigel » 11 Jun 2019, 12:39 am

SCJ429 wrote:
Nigel wrote:Have you considered 300 PRC? It's basically a new and improved 300 Win Mag: no belt, 30 degree shoulder, slightly more powder capacity.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/300-prc-better-than-the-rest/330587


I love how the article states that the 300 Norma is a necked down 338 Lapua. Silly me for thinking that Lapua would call it the 300 Lapua. I wonder what Norma would call the 338 Norma case.

I think the 300 Norma is a necked down 338 Norma. The 338 Norma was based an a wildcat cartridge: the 338 Lapua shortened to fit in a remington long action. Norma adopted it and called it the 338 Norma. So basically the 300 Norma is a shortened, necked down 338 LM.
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Post by SCJ429 » 11 Jun 2019, 9:16 am

Thanks Nigel, I do know a little about the round. If you neck down a 416 Rigby to 338, you don't end up with a 338 Lapua or Norma. When you neck down 338 Lapua brass, what do you end up with?
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Post by TassieTiger » 11 Jun 2019, 1:07 pm

Just had a look at the prc - specs look great. Not sure on brass or platforms but ballistics are between 338 lap and 300 Norma...with less recoil of either.
So many options...gets a bit confusing - especially when you don’t 100-% know the exact reason behind building it other than having a boomer.
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Post by Nigel » 11 Jun 2019, 2:53 pm

TassieTiger wrote:Just had a look at the prc - specs look great. Not sure on brass or platforms but ballistics are between 338 lap and 300 Norma...with less recoil of either.
So many options...gets a bit confusing - especially when you don’t 100-% know the exact reason behind building it other than having a boomer.

The 300 Norma should have a lot more grunt than 300 PRC. Based on measurements I've seen online the powder chamber volumes (case volume less neck volume in grains of water) are as follows:

300 Win Mag: 85gn
300 PRC: 89gn
300 Norma Mag: 97gn

I would expect 300 Norma to be a bit of a barrel burner.
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Post by bigrich » 11 Jun 2019, 3:27 pm

stuff it taz , just get something in 50 BMG :D
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Post by marksman » 11 Jun 2019, 3:31 pm

heres a fun gun for you Tassie
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Post by TassieTiger » 11 Jun 2019, 6:30 pm

My missus was just looking over my shoulder and asked me what I was doing....I said I’m just getting some help with my next next little .22 project.,,then she started reading...”who’s big rich, who’s marksman, wtf are they telling you to buy? And WTF IS THAT! No Effing way is that coming here...that’s bull, no way, tell those guys to bugger off, we have kids here, nope, not happening, who do you think you are Rambo!”

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Post by Stoney » 11 Jun 2019, 6:46 pm

Whatever happened to the WSSM guns? Advertising hype? :unknown:
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Post by TassieTiger » 11 Jun 2019, 6:54 pm

Don’t think there’s anything wrong with the WSM - just the ballistics fall off a little compared to the other big 3’s.

416 rigby...375 ruger...338....300wm - there’s too many to consider...

I’m talking about a rifle that your almost not wanting to shoot but love it regardless it...maybe gets 50 shots a year. Something you can hand to a friend at the range and when he pulls the trigger - he can only mutter the words wow. The one shot you do fire hunting, echoes up the valley for 11 seconds...the rifle you pull out to have a shot at the 800 yard plate - and it busts through the plate...that kinda thing lol
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