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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 11:41 am

Bill wrote:Jimtom I put 6.5 creedmoor in the same class as the 243 and 250 Savage ( small game getter/varmint), its certainly isnt in the 6.5X55 or 270 class :lol: :drinks:



Yep definitely not a .270, and granted, the Swede is capable of shooting heavier projectiles. Not withstanding the later, you will prob find there is not a lot of difference.
There are actually a few examples where the Creedmoor wins but to be honest it’s not a lot, and definitely not worth arguing about.
As for a small game cartridge, I do find that a little perplexing.
Anyway, I am starting to play into your hand by getting drawn into this worthless debate. You enjoy your Swede, as I would if I had one (maybe one day), and I shall enjoy my Creedmoor, and my ManBun, broke back mountain, pink shirts, and my soy decafe chai rice milk lattes.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by marksman » 04 Jan 2020, 12:10 pm

JimTom wrote:Oh dear, looks like we are heading down Swede vs Creedmoor path AGAIN. Thank god for that as it has been a few weeks since I have been reminded how I must have a manbun, wear pink shirts, watch broke back mountain and be tacticool (whatever the fcuk that means). Looking forward to reading all of the posts from the haters. NOT.........


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: not at all, its not about bashing the 6.5 CM
l find the 6.5 swede can shoot very impressively for a very old round, no competition there, there are better IMHO, same as the 6.5 CM
l reckon you would agree that the vids show the swede is not as bad as some say :thumbsup:

added this again as l think we were typing at the same time and you would not have seen it :drinks:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 12:39 pm

Mate although I don’t have one, I really like the Swede. Was looking at one in a CZ however ended up with a creed instead.
Considering how long the 6.5x55 has been around, and given its popularity today, one could never argue against it.
I just don’t understand why forum members continually carry on about the Creedmoor. If people don’t like it, fair enough not probs there, I just don’t see the need to bash others that do have one and like it. Hell mine does what I got it for.
Mate I don’t think there is any such thing as a useless cartridge. Although I don’t see the sense in some, I am sure they have their uses for some, and as such, don’t see the point in carrying on because a certain cartridge doesn’t suit your own purposes.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by marksman » 04 Jan 2020, 1:03 pm

JimTom wrote:Mate although I don’t have one, I really like the Swede. Was looking at one in a CZ however ended up with a creed instead.
Considering how long the 6.5x55 has been around, and given its popularity today, one could never argue against it.
I just don’t understand why forum members continually carry on about the Creedmoor. If people don’t like it, fair enough not probs there, I just don’t see the need to bash others that do have one and like it. Hell mine does what I got it for.
Mate I don’t think there is any such thing as a useless cartridge. Although I don’t see the sense in some, I am sure they have their uses for some, and as such, don’t see the point in carrying on because a certain cartridge doesn’t suit your own purposes.


its a personal thing buying your rifle, its your choice not anyone else's :drinks:
l cop similar for owning a 6.5x284 :lol:
l love it that much l am saving for another barrel for a walk around rifle but everyone will say its a barrel burner :lol:
my retort will be it shoots :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 1:16 pm

its a personal thing buying your rifle, its your choice not anyone else's :drinks:
l cop similar for owning a 6.5x284 :lol:
l love it that much l am saving for another barrel for a walk around rifle but everyone will say its a barrel burner :lol:
my retort will be it shoots :thumbsup: :drinks:[/quote]


Exactly mate. Classic example, I personally don’t need a 6.5x284 because I don’t shoot those long distances, but I sure as hell can appreciate it’s ability. I have watched a few clips on YouTube and mate it sure is impressive.
Some may be inclined to rubbish that cartridge as a barrel burner but I can appreciate it for what it is, and hell, I certainly wouldn’t turn one down if I had the opportunity to own one.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by SCJ429 » 04 Jan 2020, 1:52 pm

Plenty of room for all sorts of 6.5s from the Grendel to the Weatherby. How boring would it be if we could only own a 223 or a 308. Viva la difference.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 4:19 pm

Indeed.
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Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 4:43 pm

Indeed.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by in2anity » 05 Jan 2020, 7:43 am

Big advantage the 6.5cm currently has over older 6.5’s is the sheer popularity of it. Market economy drives consumer choice. And we should be spending more time focusing on guns rather than ammo - everyone seems to think like “cartridge X is what you need” rather than “specifically, rifle Y will suit your exact needs”
At what point does lack of maintenance become patina?
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Am88 » 05 Jan 2020, 12:22 pm

I feel like if I had a CM I'd have to drink my cups of a tea with a pinky in the air lol. Ah it's all good fun, I know my gun shop gentlemen pretty well and even they tell me, people that come in and all want the creedmore because they have heard from mates and seen on YouTube that it's the best and that's what they want no question.

One of my mates has a tikka T3 Varmint in 6.5 swede with the dirty plastic tuppaware stock. It shoots sellior and bellot factory rounds well. He was shooting at only 200m but could cover 5 shots with a 10 cent coin on an open range. Would make me happy anyways for a factory rifle
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by bigrich » 05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm

Am88 wrote:I feel like if I had a CM I'd have to drink my cups of a tea with a pinky in the air lol. Ah it's all good fun, I know my gun shop gentlemen pretty well and even they tell me, people that come in and all want the creedmore because they have heard from mates and seen on YouTube that it's the best and that's what they want no question.

One of my mates has a tikka T3 Varmint in 6.5 swede with the dirty plastic tuppaware stock. It shoots sellior and bellot factory rounds well. He was shooting at only 200m but could cover 5 shots with a 10 cent coin on an open range. Would make me happy anyways for a factory rifle


that's a winning combination , 6.5x55 in a tikka varmit . you'd be hard pressed to do better :thumbsup:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Bill » 05 Jan 2020, 4:34 pm

I was going to agree with ya Bigrich but a Tikka T3x aint no M96 :drinks:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by bigrich » 05 Jan 2020, 4:50 pm

Bill wrote:I was going to agree ya Bigrich but a Tikka T3x aint no M96 :drinks:


no it ain't , but for the money, in terms of accuracy/performance/trigger , very hard to beat from what i've seen . i'd have a sako 75 laminate/stainless if i could afford one but . but my 6.5 model 70 might get jealous ;)

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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by wrenchman » 08 Jan 2020, 9:05 am

i have 6.5 swede i like it but i think guns of just about every typ are good its more about what you are doing with it or hunting with it.
if it works for you and you like it i say good for you.
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by northdude » 19 Apr 2020, 6:20 pm

most things 6.5 are what i shoot mind you dont and cant see me getting a cm it all started 37 years ago i was young and spotted one of those sporterised m96s with lynx one piece mount and a 4x32 nikko stirling scope in the sporting shooter mag saved up and bought on had never heard of this 6.5x55 tried it out and never looked back i still have that rifle today its on its second barrel i also have a mil spec m38 i do service rifle comps with and do well also got a tikka t3 x55 good rifle and just had a 6.5 06 built that thing hauls arse and shoots as well
22 hornets and most things 6.5
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by solarpak » 19 Apr 2020, 7:52 pm

Interesting to what Northdude said- i agree. I recall 30 years ago in the Sporting Shooter mags Fuller Firearms (now Fuller Global which owns OSA amongst other companies!!) was advertising the M96 /M38 Swedish Mauser Sporters with a Synthetic (Ramline) stock, one piece bridge mount and Nikko Stirling Gold Crown 6x40 scope for $450. XMIL ammo was easy to come by but proper sporting (hunting) ammo was more difficult to procure. I bought one of these as one of my first centerfires and it was brilliant !!
Its interesting to see them now advertised on-line (second hand) for around the $400-$500 mark .......30 years later........still a demand for them.

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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Blr243 » 19 Apr 2020, 8:04 pm

I remember that add too ( just). It was a long time ago
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by solarpak » 19 Apr 2020, 9:10 pm

Lots of folk like the Swede ........even Austin Powers like things from Sweden!!

(Its not mine .......really !!!)

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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by northdude » 20 Apr 2020, 10:27 am

solarpak wrote:Interesting to what Northdude said- i agree. I recall 30 years ago in the Sporting Shooter mags Fuller Firearms (now Fuller Global which owns OSA amongst other companies!!) was advertising the M96 /M38 Swedish Mauser Sporters with a Synthetic (Ramline) stock, one piece bridge mount and Nikko Stirling Gold Crown 6x40 scope for $450. XMIL ammo was easy to come by but proper sporting (hunting) ammo was more difficult to procure. I bought one of these as one of my first centerfires and it was brilliant !!
Its interesting to see them now advertised on-line (second hand) for around the $400-$500 mark .......30 years later........still a demand for them.

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yep i recon its getting close to the universal caliber my original one came with the cut down mil stock its got a ramline now and a timney and better mag scope and as accurate as its mates in the safe its a pitty it was chopped up as it was an obendorf one which i think are the rarer ones
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Mark » 27 Apr 2020, 7:50 am

The modern day version of the swede shooting 156gr VLD's @ 3000fps

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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Bill » 27 Apr 2020, 9:28 am

Some good shooting there Mark, 6.5 PRC or SAUM ?

I'm keen to load some of these heavy bergers up in my Swede :thumbsup:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Mark » 27 Apr 2020, 4:57 pm

Bill wrote:Some good shooting there Mark, 6.5 PRC or SAUM ?

I'm keen to load some of these heavy bergers up in my Swede :thumbsup:


Bill its a 6.5 Addiction. Close to the swede AI
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by marksman » 27 Apr 2020, 5:46 pm

I am clearly a person with a serious 6.5 addiction :lol:,
l've been hunting with them almost for about 20 years with the 6.5x284 being my favorite, the swede coming in a close second :drinks:
l'm interested to hear what you have shot with the 156 gr bergers, how fast and how far :thumbsup:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Bill » 27 Apr 2020, 9:58 pm

I guessing you've seen Erik's recent video marksman ?? 6.5x284 doing its thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5j7VzBX7GU
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by marksman » 27 Apr 2020, 10:23 pm

Eric is a very talented guy Bill but its a 284 shooting 180 bergers
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Bill » 28 Apr 2020, 5:48 am

my mistake, yeap 6.5x284 brass necked up to 284 Wheeler :thumbsup:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by Mark » 28 Apr 2020, 9:10 am

marksman wrote:I am clearly a person with a serious 6.5 addiction :lol:,
l've been hunting with them almost for about 20 years with the 6.5x284 being my favorite, the swede coming in a close second :drinks:
l'm interested to hear what you have shot with the 156 gr bergers, how fast and how far :thumbsup:


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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by marksman » 28 Apr 2020, 10:05 am

thats hooting along mark
the sweet spot l have found for the 6.5x284 is generally between 2950 and 3050 for 140-142gr bullets
but l cant get the standard sweed up that high
it would be interesting if you could put a bit of info up about the case and the work you put into it :drinks:
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Re: dont discount the 6.5 swede

Post by northdude » 30 Apr 2020, 4:44 pm

im currently playing with a big block 6,5 06 getting 3100 with 120gr speer gold dots pretty easy going to try 140 gold dots and see how they go the 120s are brutal on goats
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