.270 vs .308?

[Am88]

7mm rem mag. I'll buy one one day.

[flutch]

.308
used by military world wide

Only because "Murica" though, all the other NATO constituents were not in favor of it.

[flutch]

SCJ429.. then could you explain why we and other NATO countries are using a 5.56mm round and "dare to be different", that is the problem.

both the 308 and 5.56 are out of favour with almost all of the worlds military, the 5.56 is ineffective nowadays and so is the 308, especially at any sort of range, with most opting for 300win, 338lap, 50bmg and 375 variants as they all perform will in excess of anything the sluggish loopty loo dribbling 308 haha... I imagine both the 308 and 556 will be replaced by a 6.5mm or 6.8mm cartridge, given there are way more advantages to having these in light of modern body armor and firearm tech.

look I think that the 308 is okish, but the same old arguments for it vs anything else are definitely a dead horse flogged. most people I know who had a 308 will not buy another one. but then if it suits your circumstances then get one and go bang.

[Lebner]

I recently replaced a burnt model 70 in 270 with an x bolt hells canyon in 270. I killed a lot of deer with the old gun. The x bolt shoots a hell of a lot better that the mod 70 ever did. Brother replaced his burnt 6.5 Swede with a howa 1500 in 308. The Swede rolled a lot of deer, but I think the 308 will do just as good

[solarpak]

The 270 and 308 have been around for a long time and will continue to do so. But the shooting industry has to keep the punters interested and constantly comes up with new calibres - its good business sense. Also new disciplines like PRC (and calibres suited to that discipline) keep things interesting.

But as a hunter, i run both the 270 and 308 - with no complaints whatsoever. Out to 300 metres - plus or minus a 100m - they work very well. I have no need to shoot at extended ranges especially when it comes to hunting deer and goats.

C.

[firstguns]

So to rekindle an older thread, I'm looking at my first 'big' rifle. It needs to be Sambar-legal, not because I'm expecting to get on them in the next 12 months, but because I'd like the option, and to build a long-term package. I've heard all the stuff about the .308, but I kind of want to 'be different', and for how much I expect to be shooting the rifle, I don't mind paying slightly more for ammo.
I have a .223, so can do medium goats and probably small pigs with that, but want something that'll stretch from goats and pigs, thru to sambar, and not a .308.
Does it sound like the .270 is the go? If it weren't for the sambar requirement a 6.5 would be pretty cool, so am I way better off just parking the sambar hunting for a couple of years until I can afford a second rifle (like a .300WSM or something?). Or do I just embrace the single rifle for now and get a 270?

[SCJ429]

What sort of budget do you have for your 270? Would this one fit the bill?

https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=169130

[Ziege]

270 is rock solid, anyone that says otherwise is either completely misinformed, or has spent too much time reading target shooting magazine ads.

But in saying that is you wanna be different why not get a 270 Weatherby magnum? Or a 280?

[firstguns]

Nice, but I'm probably 6 months away from buying, and the idea of a new rifle is calling me. I've bought used so far in my .22 and .223, and done pretty well out of both. But something about unboxing a T3x lite for the first time is pretty tempting.

[firstguns]

But in saying that is you wanna be different why not get a 270 Weatherby magnum? Or a 280?

What's the upside of a .280? Obviously a slightly larger bullet in a more 'normal' bullet diameter, and a bit more powder? So faster, and a bit harder hitting? Is ammo another step more expensive that .270? How about availability of rifles? Having a quick poke around tikkas site I couldn't see whether they produce a T3x in it, or whether I could nab a Howa barreled action in it and build something custom. Unless it's got another name too?

[TassieTiger]

If your not reloading - me personally, I’d go 270. Then, after a while when your used to that - you can jump to the 300wm or 338 or similar and you’ll have decent spacing between all your centrefires.
The 270 is a heavy hitter - it is def underestimated in many dick swinging contests.

[Ziege]

No real world advantage to the 280, just a different cartridge and altogether very similar if I were going again or to swap calibers, I'd be tempted to go 7mm rem mag, 338(something) or a 375(something)

But yeah, 270 won't do you wrong

Fun titbit, I know someone personally who has a CMC Mountaineer (howa) in 270, it's 37 years old, all parts are original, the thing has been used extensively, thousands of shots, and STL it can hit a chain link at 200m..... So don't discount a howa sporter barreled action.

[firstguns]

So don't discount a howa sporter barreled action.

I definitely won't - my .223 is a howa sporter (one of the old ones with a single-stage trigger and the slower barrel twist) and I like it just fine. Obviously the availability of aftermarket bits and pieces is a big draw too. I was thinking about building up a cool customised 1500 on a sporter profile and it could end up being a more fit-to-me hunting rifle with higher quality parts for about the same price as the T3x provided I was putting in the time.

[marksman]

the old argument used to be that there were not as many 270 bullets as other cals, l scratch my head on that because you only need one good one
l run a 270wsm shooting 150gr sst's at 3200fps, it shoots flatter than my 6.5x284 and drops sambar like the hammer of thor

[firstguns]

the old argument used to be that there were not as many 270 bullets as other cals, l scratch my head on that because you only need one good one

Thanks - I'm unlikely to reload yet (that feels like a rabbit hole that I just don't have the time to invest in), so a couple of options from factory would be great. But like you, a couple of good options is all I need. Having a hundred options (like in my .223 or .22) isn't particularly important - something for deer, and something for pigs, and I'm probably going to be happy

[JimTom]

Can get good factory ammo for either mate, in saying that, prob a bit more variety for the .308.

[duncan61]

I have a 7mm Remington Sendero in 7mm Rem Mag I wish to sell if you are interested.With 175gn Remington core lokt or Winchester failsafes it will drop a horse size animal if the shot is right.It is stainless steel with a carbon fibre stock and 26 inch barrel.Regards Duncan