221 Remington Fireball anyone??

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221 Remington Fireball anyone??

Post by Maxjon » 16 Mar 2020, 10:00 pm

Thinking of building one, have some loading gear for it.
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Post by flutch » 16 Mar 2020, 10:54 pm

Can't say I've seen much about them, what's their main drawcard?
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Post by straightshooter » 17 Mar 2020, 6:30 am

Main justification would have to be 'because you can'.
It might have some slight merit as the basis for a subsonic .224 caliber but would have the drawback of iffy feeding in actions designed for the 223 family of cartridges. Not to mention the long throated chamber required for the necessary long and heavy bullets to extract any worthwhile greater performance than out of a standard velocity LR rimfire.
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Post by deanp100 » 17 Mar 2020, 7:17 am

Probably the sweetest little round a man could have. I have a cz fireball and it is a beautiful thing. Everyone who doesn’t have one will say just get a 222/223/ 22/250 etc but they fill the role perfectly.
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Post by Gamerancher » 17 Mar 2020, 8:23 am

Maybe straightshooter needs to do a bit more research before commenting. :unknown:

The .221 Fireball is a great little .22 centrefire round. 50 grain bullets @ 3000f/s with less than 20gr of powder,
is a bit better than a standard .22 rimfire. :sarcasm:
Cheap to load, good performer on "varmints" out to 200m without the muzzle blast and report of a .22-250 or the like.
Mine is in an L-461 Sako , I actually run 55gr S.P bullets over 18gr of 2207 for culling purposes and have absolutely no feeding problems whatsoever. :thumbsup:
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Post by in2anity » 17 Mar 2020, 8:55 am

Gamerancher wrote:The .221 Fireball is a great little .22 centrefire round. 50 grain bullets @ 3000f/s with less than 20gr of powder,

Just been reading about it - cool little concept. Generally I do appreciate the efficiency and recoil (or lack there of) of 2207 loads - reminds me of my supers out of the 300blk. That's 18gr 07 under a 125 grainer - and it's an absolute pleasure to shoot, not to mention cheap to run. The .221 would be even milder, cheaper and flatter, and probably inherently more accurate... I like it.
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Post by Maxjon » 17 Mar 2020, 9:19 am

straightshooter wrote:Main justification would have to be 'because you can'.
It might have some slight merit as the basis for a subsonic .224 caliber but would have the drawback of iffy feeding in actions designed for the 223 family of cartridges. Not to mention the long throated chamber required for the necessary long and heavy bullets to extract any worthwhile greater performance than out of a standard velocity LR rimfire.

Hmm not sure we are talking the same cartridge....the Fireball is well and truly a Centrefire.
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Post by bladeracer » 17 Mar 2020, 12:27 pm

Bullbarrel033 wrote:[quote="straightshooter"Main justification would have to be 'because you can'.
It might have some slight merit as the basis for a subsonic .224 caliber but would have the drawback of iffy feeding in actions designed for the 223 family of cartridges. Not to mention the long throated chamber required for the necessary long and heavy bullets to extract any worthwhile greater performance than out of a standard velocity LR rimfire.[/quote

Hmm not sure we are talking the cartridge....


He seems to only view it as a basis for highly-reduced subsonic loads, which makes no sense to me.
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Post by Maxjon » 17 Mar 2020, 1:35 pm

Yeah lots better cartridges for subsonic loading. The Fireball is basically a 222 when shooting 35gn bullets. I like to see the bullet impact in the scope.
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Post by SCJ429 » 17 Mar 2020, 6:38 pm

You can probably get an extra 200 fps out of the 222 but I get your point that it is quite capable with lighter projectiles.

If you want a Fireball, why not. The practical choice is a 223 or 222 but it would be pretty boring if we all did the same thing.

The Fireball has no feeding issues when chambered in a Ruger #1. :thumbsup:
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Post by Maxjon » 18 Mar 2020, 6:55 pm

SCJ429 wrote:You can probably get an extra 200 fps out of the 222 but I get your point that it is quite capable with lighter projectiles.

If you want a Fireball, why not. The practical choice is a 223 or 222 but it would be pretty boring if we all did the same thing.

The Fireball has no feeding issues when chambered in a Ruger #1. :thumbsup:

Yeah I'm pretty convinced of going with it. Nice n quiet, possibly next to no recoil, 3500 fps with 35gn bullets, what's not to love? Should be a solid 250m rifle.
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Post by duncan61 » 18 Mar 2020, 8:43 pm

Its a mind set.I purchased a light weight Ruger M77 with a 22 inch knitting needle barrel in Stainless steel because it was $1000 and shiny and I liked it.The amount of experts who told me it would not work on Kangaroos was quite astounding.Apparently to succeed I would have to rechamber to .223 or the sky would fall in.I ended up soft loading it down to 2700fps with 50gn PSP for economy and still gathered my quota.Enjoy your fireball and go to the range and do one hole groups at 100 metres like I did
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Post by Maxjon » 19 Mar 2020, 6:39 am

Yes, it's a rippa! Everyone who has experienced one, dosent have a bad word about it. As I see it, it's basically a .222 with 35gn bullets. I'm hoping to see the impact thru the scope like I used to with the 17 Rem and 222.
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Post by duncan61 » 19 Mar 2020, 10:17 am

I agree.I have been using my .243 a lot lately and miss not seeing the impact.I need a scope for my .222 might have to get one
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