22-250 or 243

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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by mchughcb » 27 Jan 2021, 12:50 pm

straightshooter wrote:Anybody for a 25-06.
Its a caliber that doesn't talked about much but is far more common than one may think.


When I was pro shooting thats all I used. Now im not a pro I'd go with 243 win. Just cause it has less boot.
I'm not a pro. Not even close.
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by GQshayne » 27 Jan 2021, 7:40 pm

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GQshayne wrote:I have two M55 Tikkas, one in .243. I have owned it since 1986. It is comparable to a similar vintage Sako in my opinion. In those days, they were in direct competition. Until recently I used it as a pig gun, and could not say how many pigs were taken with it over the decades.

In the early days 85gn Sierras were used, and then 87gn Hornady Interlocks and 90gn Speer Hot core. On average size pigs, heavy construction projectiles such as Partitions are too heavy in my experience, so the stuff listed above has worked better. I have shot some big pigs at 200m with it, and never had any reason to think the calibre was not suitable. Maybe if I was seeing a lot of pigs over 100kg then the Partitions or something similar would work better.

I have reloaded for it after my first batch of factory PMC ammo supplied me some cases. I also acquired some other cases being Sako and some Winchester etc. I still have many of those original cases, and never once have I had an issue reloading any. As a hunter (not a target shooter), I always FL resize them, and some of those old cases would have had a few reloads by now.

I tried to show you a pic of it, but the upload limit appears to have changed.


yeah, i've had lots of trouble trying to upload pics in the past as well . first hand knowledge of m55's is what i'm seeking. they have no funny quirks or matinence issues then ? they can't be toploaded with reloading the mag without removing it from the rifle ? i've read the floorplate/trigger gaurd assembly can be fiddly if disassembled . have you played with this ? :thumbsup:


No they can't be top loaded, and have a detachable magazine, 3 shot is standard for the .243. I also have a 5 shot for mine, but would have to think they would be hard to find nowadays. I have always considered a detachable mag an asset.

Floor plate and trigger is as simple as it could be actually. I am honestly baffled that anyone could think it was fiddly. Trigger is excellent, and considered to be one of the best factory triggers made. I have read this a few times, and had a bloke at a gun shop say the same to me.

The new Tikkas are a good thing, but do not look the same as the old ones to me. I guess I just like old stuff. And if you are patient, you can find them with a DeLux stock. Nicely figured walnut, beaver tail forend and a rollover cheek piece. That is my preference.

Sorry I cannot give you a pic. I even tried to upload one that I have put up here before, but now it says its to big. If you have a look at my old .17 Rem Project thread on here the pics might still be there.
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by GQshayne » 27 Jan 2021, 7:45 pm

Have a look in this thread. A few pics in there.

https://enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11858&start=90
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 27 Jan 2021, 9:04 pm

Skinna wrote:Well if youre having a barrel chambered for this & still bandying around different cartridges with 25-06 in the mix, then why not seriously take the 257 Roberts into the equation.??

Also, while the 243 will always win in any "which is more versatile out of 243 & 22-250", there is still a lot of good about the 22-250 being left out here.

You started out considering the 223AI, so why not the 22-250 AI...?
The 22-250 is more than capable of taking small to medium animals like goats & dogs etc., which are both pretty thin skinned animals. Admittedly pigs are a different matter, but those who know what they are doing still hunt small to medium pigs with a 223.
If you can shoot, you'll have no problems in taking goats for the table easily out at 300 with the 22-250, & dogs will tip over probably just, as if not easier.

And you talk about inbetween your 222 & 270...so what happened to your 6.5x55 you always said is your go-to hunt gun...? If you still have that a 22-250 AI would be a better gap filler in my opinion, unless you just want a short action 6mm cartridge
The 22-250 is just a smidge under the 243 in every respect, volume (noise), case capacity & bullet flinging weight, variety of bullet availability & cheap prices, & for what they are, they hit with some magnificent authority...so choose an appropriate twist & bullets for its purposes & you wont be disappointed.
But its most likely you wont be disappointed with your 243 either by the sounds of it. :)


stinna me old mate ( see what i did there :D ) , long time no post :lol: well , the ole 6.5x55 winnie is going down the road as 270 win has the ability to carry energy out a long way to flatten anything i'm likely to come across :D i ended up with a 1972 sako finnbear , only used by a little old lady after church on sundays :lol:

i've been deliberateing about getting another caliber of late , more so out of technical interest , and a bit of retail therapy :D . i don't get to do much culling/varmiting , and while the 22-250 and such are interesting , i think 243 makes more sense as a walk around gun .22-250 has velocity, 243 throws 95/100 grain ballistic tips, at a reasonable trajectory as well . 25-06 is very interesting , and as i have a sporter 30-06 eddystone laying around, this is a possible build-up . but 25-06 uses a lot of powder . on these aspects the 243 makes sense
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 27 Jan 2021, 9:06 pm

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bigrich wrote:
GQshayne wrote:I have two M55 Tikkas, one in .243. I have owned it since 1986. It is comparable to a similar vintage Sako in my opinion. In those days, they were in direct competition. Until recently I used it as a pig gun, and could not say how many pigs were taken with it over the decades.

In the early days 85gn Sierras were used, and then 87gn Hornady Interlocks and 90gn Speer Hot core. On average size pigs, heavy construction projectiles such as Partitions are too heavy in my experience, so the stuff listed above has worked better. I have shot some big pigs at 200m with it, and never had any reason to think the calibre was not suitable. Maybe if I was seeing a lot of pigs over 100kg then the Partitions or something similar would work better.

I have reloaded for it after my first batch of factory PMC ammo supplied me some cases. I also acquired some other cases being Sako and some Winchester etc. I still have many of those original cases, and never once have I had an issue reloading any. As a hunter (not a target shooter), I always FL resize them, and some of those old cases would have had a few reloads by now.

I tried to show you a pic of it, but the upload limit appears to have changed.


yeah, i've had lots of trouble trying to upload pics in the past as well . first hand knowledge of m55's is what i'm seeking. they have no funny quirks or matinence issues then ? they can't be toploaded with reloading the mag without removing it from the rifle ? i've read the floorplate/trigger gaurd assembly can be fiddly if disassembled . have you played with this ? :thumbsup:


No they can't be top loaded, and have a detachable magazine, 3 shot is standard for the .243. I also have a 5 shot for mine, but would have to think they would be hard to find nowadays. I have always considered a detachable mag an asset.

Floor plate and trigger is as simple as it could be actually. I am honestly baffled that anyone could think it was fiddly. Trigger is excellent, and considered to be one of the best factory triggers made. I have read this a few times, and had a bloke at a gun shop say the same to me.

The new Tikkas are a good thing, but do not look the same as the old ones to me. I guess I just like old stuff. And if you are patient, you can find them with a DeLux stock. Nicely figured walnut, beaver tail forend and a rollover cheek piece. That is my preference.

Sorry I cannot give you a pic. I even tried to upload one that I have put up here before, but now it says its to big. If you have a look at my old .17 Rem Project thread on here the pics might still be there.



thanks for your info and advice mate :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 28 Jan 2021, 5:06 pm

well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Blr243 » 28 Jan 2021, 5:34 pm

Cleavers always have bulk 87 vmax Proj on special roughly 35 per hundred I think
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 28 Jan 2021, 6:56 pm

They are also the go to proj for the 243 both in my own and in mates rifle. U have a fee thousand of them 87g V maxs
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by GQshayne » 28 Jan 2021, 7:39 pm

bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Does it have the DeLux stock by any chance?????
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 28 Jan 2021, 8:13 pm

GQshayne wrote:
bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Does it have the DeLux stock by any chance?????


no, unfortunately . if it's still there, do a search on usedguns , it's advertised for $899 . i just hope his idea of excellent is the same as mine ;)
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Skinna » 28 Jan 2021, 11:57 pm

bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


No worries Rich...& yes i seen what you did there :thumbsup:

After you get over the disapointment of yet another 243 with its loud & incredibly obtuse muzzle blast & get it re-barreled & chambered in 22-250, be sure & share the joy of 60grnr's making goats fall over at 300 in your scope with your new found 22 calibre love affair. :D

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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 29 Jan 2021, 4:29 am

I’m sure 243 as a walk about caliber will be fine for me skinna . Especially seeing how it’s in a magical Scandinavian rifle, handmade by beautiful Norse damsels :lol:

The only thing I’ll have to adjust to is the box magazine. My old mate stoney reckons if it annoys me that much , just treat it like a ruger No1 and stick one round at a time in through the top :lol:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Blr243 » 29 Jan 2021, 1:50 pm

I find if a box mag is easy to remove, and it has good safe definite lugs that can be relied upon I get used to it and don’t mind having to remove it to top it up ......generally we should be happy about having to top up our mag because it means I just shot a couple of pigs
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 30 Jan 2021, 9:16 am

With regards to magazines, being able to top up on the move without even needing to look was a handy thing for me recently when I was trying to keep sight of some pigs. I settled for the m55 cause the single stack box mags are known for their reliable feed
As much as I appreciate the accuracy and reliability of the modern tikka’s, there’s nothing like a older craftsman made rifle. The only rifle I regret selling was my 1903 obberndorff made”Turk” Mauser in 8x57. The early Mauser are much tighter and slicker than the later WW2 made ones
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by JohnV » 30 Jan 2021, 9:48 am

bigrich wrote:With regards to magazines, being able to top up on the move without even needing to look was a handy thing for me recently when I was trying to keep sight of some pigs. I settled for the m55 cause the single stack box mags are known for their reliable feed
As much as I appreciate the accuracy and reliability of the modern tikka’s, there’s nothing like a older craftsman made rifle. The only rifle I regret selling was my 1903 obberndorff made”Turk” Mauser in 8x57. The early Mauser are much tighter and slicker than the later WW2 made ones

I regret selling two Parker Hale Super Safaris , 22-250 and a 308 , but I needed money to buy a house and stuff had to go .
The Santa Barbara 98 copies were beautiful actions .
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by SCJ429 » 30 Jan 2021, 2:46 pm

When I was dressed in green I remember seeing Parker Hale M82 and I thought they were a Mauser. The Australian Army thought you only needed a 6x scope to hit targets out to 600 metres but it was heaps better than the open sights on my SLR.
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by RoginaJack » 30 Jan 2021, 3:09 pm

Yep, can't argue with that but the 7.62 SLR could still shoot pretty good groups out to 200yds.
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Oldbloke » 30 Jan 2021, 3:22 pm

bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Good choice :thumbsup:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by GQshayne » 30 Jan 2021, 7:36 pm

bigrich wrote:
GQshayne wrote:
bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Does it have the DeLux stock by any chance?????


no, unfortunately . if it's still there, do a search on usedguns , it's advertised for $899 . i just hope his idea of excellent is the same as mine ;)


Just had a look but did not see it.
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 01 Feb 2021, 8:58 am

GQshayne wrote:
bigrich wrote:
GQshayne wrote:
bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Does it have the DeLux stock by any chance?????


no, unfortunately . if it's still there, do a search on usedguns , it's advertised for $899 . i just hope his idea of excellent is the same as mine ;)


Just had a look but did not see it.



It must’ve been taken down. I’ve seen a influx of early tikka’s for sale of late. I’ll see how the 243 I got coming goes, I might get a 22-250 as well....... ;)
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Skinna » 04 Feb 2021, 12:42 am

No...!!!

Dont get one BigRich...not a 22-250..!!
They are not a Queenslanders gun anway...!!...real rednecks wouldnt fathom anything less than a 243 :) :thumbsup:

So Just stick to the 243 mate... 8-)

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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 06 Feb 2021, 9:32 am

Skinna wrote:No...!!!

Dont get one BigRich...not a 22-250..!!
They are not a Queenslanders gun anway...!!...real rednecks wouldnt fathom anything less than a 243 :) :thumbsup:

So Just stick to the 243 mate... 8-)

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i don't get to do culling or varmiting very often , so the 243 is more versatile for anything i'm likely to encounter anyway stinna ;) .

i've dusted off my dies , bought some 95 gn nosler BT's and rem brass . as ADI seem to have foresaken the local market , powderwise i'm considering alliant 19
anyone got any feedback for me on this powder ?
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Oldbloke » 06 Feb 2021, 12:59 pm

bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Any pics?
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Bugman » 06 Feb 2021, 1:21 pm

Great choice. :clap:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by JohnV » 06 Feb 2021, 1:42 pm

SCJ429 wrote:When I was dressed in green I remember seeing Parker Hale M82 and I thought they were a Mauser. The Australian Army thought you only needed a 6x scope to hit targets out to 600 metres but it was heaps better than the open sights on my SLR.
The action is a Mauser 98 copy but nicer made than most of the ex Military Mausers .
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by bigrich » 06 Feb 2021, 5:42 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
bigrich wrote:well i done it . after mentally torturing myself on trying to make a decision , i made a choice , i've got a tikka m55 in 243 coming my way . :D

i was almost gunna get another model 70 , but these finnish made firearms are a slick handmade bit of gear :thumbsup:

thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions :thumbsup:


Any pics?


still waiting on the pta OB :roll:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Oldbloke » 06 Feb 2021, 8:16 pm

What's a Pain in The Arse got to do with purchasing a new rifle. :violin: :lol:
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Re: 22-250 or 243

Post by Pedro » 19 Feb 2021, 7:46 am

My M55 in 243 has been my go to gun for a long time
I have watched a couple of other people I shoot with get caught up in the caliber challenge's but I have always liked the 243 and enjoy testing different hand loads, its been a great gun and caliber for me and as previously mentioned the 270 is there if i need bigger.
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