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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Blr243 » 24 May 2022, 4:46 pm

No exp with bullets on anything bigger than donkeys in wa but I do like to add this little tale .... long tim ago I barefoot crept up behind a Cape York scrub bull as he was feeding into the wind. Right behind 5 metres I was unnecessarily close but could not take a shot. If there was a tool to measure anxiety I would have blown than sucker to pieces Fortunately he turned side on so I released the arrow. He only walked 5 metres and was down. I know u are very aware of shot placement but this little scene of mine Demonstrates shot placement like nothing else. shows how a tiny broad head in the right spot can do anything ..... I don’t recommend u try this. Back then I had no fear ... adventure was my only wish ..safety and .my own life was mostly never considered. It could have ended terribly for me. I was hunting solo. So other than this ramble The only thing I have to say is that I’m jealous of your trip to the territory
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 24 May 2022, 6:36 pm

Interesting story BLR . Your gamer than me . I’m doing the buff hunt while I can, before I get any older. But I’m waiting for bigpete to chime in and say “yes, you should upgrade to a 375 H&H ...”. :D
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigpete » 24 May 2022, 7:47 pm

If they were still available I'd try and get the woodleigh 320gn pills for it....or man up and get a 458wm....lol
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Blr243 » 24 May 2022, 7:48 pm

I was goin to say that. I understand hesitation of purchase if it’s only going to be used once , because otherwise the gun won’t getuused because it’s unnecessarily big for everything else . But itt can always be loaded down to comfort able levels. I had a try at djs 375 HH on a bench and I was expecting it to boot me bad but was pleasantly surprised and commented that it was just like a 3006. I’m pretty sure they were mild handloads. On the hunt a perfect Shot at a relaxed broadside buff just might not happen Might b the only buff hunt u ever do. Afterwards u don’t wanna be regretting carrying something that might do. I did a quick google 375 HH vs 9.3 by 62 And it did state a considerable power difference After the hunt u could just sell it. I normally would not encourage u to buy more rifles because u are always. Buying new ones anyway but this time I think it’s worth serious consideration
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Blr243 » 24 May 2022, 7:50 pm

Was typing when Pete posted. When I said I WAS GOIN TO SAY THAT I meant I was goin to suggest buying the 375
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Blr243 » 24 May 2022, 7:58 pm

I just did a bit more googling. Energy wise the 375 is about 25 per cent more than the 9.3
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Bill » 24 May 2022, 8:09 pm

Blr243 wrote:I just did a bit more googling. Energy wise the 375 is about 25 per cent more than the 9.3


try like maybe 15% more energy if loaded to the same Pressure, been shooting and reloading a 9.3x62 for 15 years :drinks:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Peterwho » 24 May 2022, 9:53 pm

I bought a sauer 200 in 9.3x62 and a weatherby mk V custom in 404j at the most recent fine arms auction in Melbourne very cheaply. Both left handed and no one other than me bid on them. I intend to use both in aust. Been collecting shells and projectiles from wherever I can. Got the last box of 9.3 320 woodleigh from magnum sports the other day. Surprising number of people use 9.3s In aust I am finding. Primers and powder the next focus.
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 25 May 2022, 8:45 am

9.3x62 is a fantastic caliber with lots of credit. 375 H&H has more energy to offer and I think energy transfer is higher than the 9.3 due to sectional density being slightly less but with a slight increase in bore size. They both have merit, but I believe 375 has a much wider choice of projectiles for different game sizes . 9.3 is cheaper to shoot however, given brass cost and powder usage. The flexibility of the 375 and it’s ability on buff with slightly more room for shot errors than the 9.3 is a consideration that’s making me think of upgrading to 375.
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Bill » 25 May 2022, 8:54 am

bigrich wrote:9.3x62 is a fantastic caliber with lots of credit. 375 H&H has more energy to offer and I think energy transfer is higher than the 9.3 due to sectional density being slightly less but with a slight increase in bore size. They both have merit, but I believe 375 has a much wider choice of projectiles for different game sizes . 9.3 is cheaper to shoot however, given brass cost and powder usage. The flexibility of the 375 and it’s ability on buff with slightly more room for shot errors than the 9.3 is a consideration that’s making me think of upgrading to 375.


I dont think you can go wrong with either bigrich, my brother made the observation that a handy M98 in 9.3x62 with 5 shots is just about the perfect gun for culling buff. if your worried about room for error then you should probably step up to a 458. A poorly place 9.3/375 will have the same result. :thumbsup:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 25 May 2022, 11:17 am

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bigrich wrote:9.3x62 is a fantastic caliber with lots of credit. 375 H&H has more energy to offer and I think energy transfer is higher than the 9.3 due to sectional density being slightly less but with a slight increase in bore size. They both have merit, but I believe 375 has a much wider choice of projectiles for different game sizes . 9.3 is cheaper to shoot however, given brass cost and powder usage. The flexibility of the 375 and it’s ability on buff with slightly more room for shot errors than the 9.3 is a consideration that’s making me think of upgrading to 375.


I dont think you can go wrong with either bigrich, my brother made the observation that a handy M98 in 9.3x62 with 5 shots is just about the perfect gun for culling buff. if your worried about room for error then you should probably step up to a 458. A poorly place 9.3/375 will have the same result. :thumbsup:


Good point. Something I have considered is I can shoot my 9.3 well. 375 H&H recoil and the ability to shoot it well is a valid point. I realise rifle weight/stock design is a variable, while 375 may have more recoil, is it as sharp as a 9.3? To my experience, 308’s recoil is more uncomfortable than 30-06 due to a bigger case with slower burning powder in the 30-06.
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigpete » 25 May 2022, 7:47 pm

Honestly a 458wm isn't that bad to shoot standing. Off a bench its a bit much but still not the end of the world
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by animalpest » 31 May 2022, 5:04 am

If you can't down a buff with a 9.3 I doubt having a .375 H&H is going to change things. Get heavy, quality bullets and go for it.

If you can shoot your 9.3 well, then that is what I would use. And that, in my humble experience is the most important thing there is.

I think you are overthinking it.
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Billo » 31 May 2022, 9:27 am

But overthinking is justification for filling the safe with guns you ' Need' but never shoot :drinks:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 01 Jun 2022, 8:34 am

animalpest wrote:If you can't down a buff with a 9.3 I doubt having a .375 H&H is going to change things. Get heavy, quality bullets and go for it.

If you can shoot your 9.3 well, then that is what I would use. And that, in my humble experience is the most important thing there is.

I think you are overthinking it.


overthinking it ? maybe i'm looking for a excuse to buy another gun :D model 70 winny safari in 375 H&H , oh yeah :D :drinks: :D

seriously though AP , the barnes 250 tsx have been recommended by the PH/guide as being suitable . due to not being able to get 285 gn woodleigh or partitions , i'm persuing with the 250's in the 9.3 . i've discovered my sako has very generous freebore in the chamber . i set up a dummy round with a 250 barnes and couldn't touch the bore when seated at 3.5" ! so i've seated out to the second cannalure on the barnes at 3.320" , which fits comfortably fits the mag and feeds great . the factory barnes COL is 3.200" . upon doing this i've been able to work up faster loads due to a extra 100 thou plus case capacity , which will be a help with expansion with the barnes . my rifle has a 21" factory barrel , so this will be of some benefeit as well . currently i'm up to 60gn of ar2208 , no preasure signs and less than 3/4" at 100 . i lightly crimp my loads with a lee crimp as well . your point of being able to shoot accurately is not lost on me . i'm a big fella and find the 9.3 comfotable to shoot . maybe that's why i want a 375 ..... :lol:
i've also found i can seat 285 lapua "mega" projectiles out to a second cannalure as well , which gets me to ADI's max load of 67gn of ar2209 compressed , with good accuracy and no problems . they wake me up more than the 250's . i've yet to chrono these loads but the point of impact is very similar , which makes for good load flexability in the field . i do overthink some things but i do enjoy it . any experiences you have with the mentioned projectiles , and the 270 speer, would be appreciated
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by animalpest » 01 Jun 2022, 4:22 pm

No, those loads in the 9.3 are no good. You have to buy a Winchester 70 :lol:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 02 Jun 2022, 6:40 am

animalpest wrote:No, those loads in the 9.3 are no good. You have to buy a Winchester 70 :lol:


is my bank manager paying you a commision ....... :lol:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by animalpest » 02 Jun 2022, 12:24 pm

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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by mickb » 05 Jun 2022, 12:49 am

I havent owned a 9.3 but had 2 375's over the years, one a CZ550, the other a Zastava M70.If I was upgrading it would be more about the prestige of the bigger case, which is not a BS reason, we buy bigger guns because we enjoy them, and if they help confidence on dangerous animals why not.

The 375 is in a different class in peoples minds , into the 'almost 3" long case" group, usually in photo cartridge lineups with the big dogs like 416's, 404's and 458's and it gets called an elephant gun as often as not.

On paper the class difference probably isnt as much. It does have 23% more powder capacity, and a 10% fatter bullet which means about 15% more energy and also slightly flatter shooting. Top loads I used were 2800fps with woodleigh 270grain RNSP, about 4700ftlbs. I never got into the very heavy long bullet thing either aka .350gns's in 375 and 450's in 416's etc.. Maybe buff needs a longer bullet, Ive never shot one, but anything else on the continent including scrubbers will fall with standard 270-300gns
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 05 Jun 2022, 6:12 am

After much deliberation, I reckon I’ll stick with my 9.3. The rifle I have is a sako 85 grizzly. Beautiful rifle. Except for two points. 21” fluted barrel is a bit light for me shooting offhand. I do better with a bit of weight forward in the balance of a rifle cause I’m a big boofhead :lol: I tend to wobble with light rifles more.
The other point is it has the sako 85 ejection issues. Cases hit the turret and bounce back into the receiver .I have my leupold 2.5-8 scope turned 90 degrees to the left so there’s no scope turret over the ejection port. It functions reliably set up like this, I checked with leupold and they said no problem with the scope like this either. But it bugs me :roll:
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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2022, 10:15 pm

Well fellas, I’m sitting in a Darwin hotel room after a successful hunt. Regarding my other posts on climate temperature and hand loads, the adi powder loads performed perfectly. I went up with “high country safaris “ and had a excellent time and met some excellent people. Saw some other clients nail some scrubbers, donkeys and pigs, as well as buff. The most impressive thing I saw was a 72 year old ex guide flatten a big buff bull with a 45-70 marlin at about 75 yards. I got my buff and some good size boars . I’m not savvy enough to work out how to post the pics. I’ll try again later .
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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2022, 10:18 pm

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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2022, 10:19 pm

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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2022, 10:20 pm

Nice boar
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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2022, 10:22 pm

Hopefully you fellas on phones can turn them to suit..... :lol:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by bigrich » 17 Aug 2022, 11:56 am

As a follow up , the 250 Barnes made short work of buff. The lapua 285 round nose flattened a wild horse with a front chest shot, and were devastating on pigs if you got into the shoulders. They passed through if they didn’t get anything solid. The 270 Speer performed very well on pigs. My load with these was “soft “, driven harder I could see them as devastating on ordinary rear lung shots. I’ll be going back up again next dry season, but from what I’ve seen of scrub bull, I’m thinking a 375 h&h would be more appropriate :thumbsup:
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by mickb » 17 Aug 2022, 7:34 pm

Mate nice one! Ive flogged scrub bull with 30 cals and 12 ga slugs. I remember posting on the African game forums in the day and you would hear the stories of the strength of Cape buffalos and water buff, usually in that order. I'd mention our scrub bulls weighing as much or more and the consensus was its a different and lesser class of animal- just not as generally body tough.

I've never shot buff or cape buff so didnt have the experience to argue their toughness. But I would be suprised if a 9.3 couldnt safely and effectively take any scrub bull alive.
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Re: 9.3x62 for ozzie hunting

Post by Billo » 17 Aug 2022, 8:30 pm

well done bigrich sounds like you had a blast :drinks:
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Post by Billo » 17 Aug 2022, 8:36 pm

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Post by on_one_wheel » 17 Aug 2022, 8:46 pm

Well done BR !

Looks and sounds like the trip was more than worth it.

Are you keeping any trophies?
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