30-06 loads

[bigrich]

okay fellas , need some advice for a 30-06 i'm about to load for . i'm looking for a general purpose "do all" load . i have 165gn speer btsp and 2209,2208 and re22 to play with . i was thinking around 56.5-57.5 of 2209 should end up being a accuracy spot . adi list a 59gn max of 2209 for this projectile weight . naturally i'm going to work up to this . any advice or feedback on projectile performance and favorite loads would be appreciated

[deye243]

60g of 09 under a Sierra 150g Spitzer worked for me for years

[Blr243]

I knew a bloke who raved for years about 60 grains of 2209 but no idea of his projectile

[Bello]

Hi Mate
I am looking at doing the same sort of thing as soon as I can get to the range.
I will be using AR2209 with 165gr Nosler partitions.
I also have 165gr Hornady SST.
I have had the Hornady SST, and the Sierra Gamechanger both blow up at close range in a 308. I think the SST and Game changer are possibly better out past 200 meters, they seem to be a bit softer in construction.

[bigrich]

Hi Mate
I am looking at doing the same sort of thing as soon as I can get to the range.
I will be using AR2209 with 165gr Nosler partitions.
I also have 165gr Hornady SST.
I have had the Hornady SST, and the Sierra Gamechanger both blow up at close range in a 308. I think the SST and Game changer are possibly better out past 200 meters, they seem to be a bit softer in construction.

I’ve used 140sst out of swedes at various ranges, and what you say about them is accurate. Had a mate use sst on smallish pigs on a hunt, out of a 8x57 ! Absolutely devastating.
Back to my 30-06, I think 165 gn is a good all rounder for me. I use Nathan fosters reviews as a guide to projectiles performance, but feedback from others in our local conditions carries more weight with me

[Bello]

Hi
Below are two pics of a 140gr Sierra Game changer (270 calibre) I dug out of a deer shot between 100 meters and 200 meters.
The projectiles were very accurate out of my 270. Just nothing left of the bullet.
I think the Hornady SST are the same in regards to being a little on the lighter side of construction. Possibly better past the 200 meter mark.
I found the Hornady SST and Sierra Game changer to be accurate, and did the job.
These are just MY personal observation, if it helps anyone.
For my 30-06 I am going to give the 165gr partition a wirl

[bigrich]

Well, sst’s have been very accurate in everything I’ve tried them in . Partitions are a good bullet, but hideously expensive these days

[Bello]

Hi
I can't seem to track any 30 cal 165gr partitions down.
It seems they are all sold out ...everywhere.
I have a few to do load testing, but if anyone has any they will like to part with, let me know.

[mchughcb]

okay fellas , need some advice for a 30-06 i'm about to load for . i'm looking for a general purpose "do all" load . i have 165gn speer btsp and 2209,2208 and re22 to play with . i was thinking around 56.5-57.5 of 2209 should end up being a accuracy spot . adi list a 59gn max of 2209 for this projectile weight . naturally i'm going to work up to this . any advice or feedback on projectile performance and favorite loads would be appreciated

RE22 is the powder to get maximum velocity. I used that loaded to the max with 180gr Sierra Gamekings.

However these days I'm using 58gr of 2209 with a 165gr BT. I tried 59gr but extraction was sticky. according to nick harvey 58 grains should be around 2828fps

Nosler reloading recommends 57.5gr as max for 165gr BT for 2870fps in a 24" barrel.

I haven't chrono them but 58gr is enough to drop sambar at any range you can hit them.

[bigrich]

okay fellas , need some advice for a 30-06 i'm about to load for . i'm looking for a general purpose "do all" load . i have 165gn speer btsp and 2209,2208 and re22 to play with . i was thinking around 56.5-57.5 of 2209 should end up being a accuracy spot . adi list a 59gn max of 2209 for this projectile weight . naturally i'm going to work up to this . any advice or feedback on projectile performance and favorite loads would be appreciated

RE22 is the powder to get maximum velocity. I used that loaded to the max with 180gr Sierra Gamekings.

However these days I'm using 58gr of 2209 with a 165gr BT. I tried 59gr but extraction was sticky. according to nick harvey 58 grains should be around 2828fps

Nosler reloading recommends 57.5gr as max for 165gr BT for 2870fps in a 24" barrel.

I haven't chrono them but 58gr is enough to drop sambar at any range you can hit them.

re22 is a very good powder . i got onto it when i was playing with 6.5x55 . i've used it in 270win with 150's and 243 with 95's . very good accuracy , and best speed with no preasure signs . but that can go out the window on a hot day

your 2209/165 loads are about where i expect to end up with my 30-06 . thanks for your help

[yoshie]

I tried 150g SSTs and they were very accurate, I had a less than optimal experience with Samba that I blame on the bullet expanding too quickly. I tried Barmes 180g TTSX on Samba and haf a similar experience. I wasn't pushing the Barnes fast enough to expand. After these I settled on a 165g Speer hot core and when I couldn't get these I found a Remminton soft nose in the same weight. Both have been great multi purpose loads.

[Oldbloke]

"165g Speer hot core"
Hornady interlock
Remington Core-Lokt

All good general purpose bullets

[bigrich]

I already have some 165 Speer, bought some 165 accubonds today as a test mule bullet as according to yank forums their accurate. Would’ve preferred 165 sst, but ya gotta use what you can get these days
Uncle nick likes the accubonds and 57 gn of 2209 or 61 gn of re22. Sounds good to me. If ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

[mchughcb]

I already have some 165 Speer, bought some 165 accubonds today as a test mule bullet as according to yank forums their accurate. Would’ve preferred 165 sst, but ya gotta use what you can get these days
Uncle nick likes the accubonds and 57 gn of 2209 or 61 gn of re22. Sounds good to me. If ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Not sure what volume Uncle Nicks you are using but there is a big difference in some calibres and loads.

I've shot a few big sambar with the 165grain accubonds and they really penetrate well on the stags. Straight through both shoulders at 200m. 57grains should be doing about 2830-2850 or there abouts and plenty of power.

[bigrich]

I already have some 165 Speer, bought some 165 accubonds today as a test mule bullet as according to yank forums their accurate. Would’ve preferred 165 sst, but ya gotta use what you can get these days
Uncle nick likes the accubonds and 57 gn of 2209 or 61 gn of re22. Sounds good to me. If ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Not sure what volume Uncle Nicks you are using but there is a big difference in some calibres and loads.

I've shot a few big sambar with the 165grain accubonds and they really penetrate well on the stags. Straight through both shoulders at 200m. 57grains should be doing about 2830-2850 or there abouts and plenty of power.

i checked data with nick's 10th load manual and ADI's . it's on the money . the info came from a reply from nick to a 30-06 question in sporting shooter . the speed you gave is the same as nick reckoned too

[bigrich]

well the result of the 165 accubond load is in . this rifle has a slow barrel it would seem. the faster the load, the groups opened up to over 3" ! i went as high as 57.5 gn . 56 gn of 2209 gave me just on .9" . and that may have been improved if i shot the three shot group slower . the second was 1/2" from the first , the third went higher for the .9" result . this is just preliminary testing to get a feel for the rifle and caliber . the 165 speer btsp will probably work well with a little less speed anyway . pretty sure any pigs or deer won't be able to tell the difference . the barrel is the original 1975 sako barrel , and has a couple of small pits in the first couple of inches of rifling . all in all still a useful rifle. doesn't seem to recoil as sharp as my 270 either

thanks to all for advice

[mchughcb]

Anything under 25mm at 100m is good enough for a hunting load out to 300m.

[bladeracer]

IIf ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Ask him what he thinks about civilians having semi-auto rifles...

[bigrich]

IIf ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Ask him what he thinks about civilians having semi-auto rifles...

Don’t want to open that can of worms blade, this forum gets too political at the best of times.....
Just want to work up some 30-06 hunting loads

[bigrich]

Anything under 25mm at 100m is good enough for a hunting load out to 300m.

That’s my opinion too. But my OCD will probably kick in eventually and I’ll get a new barrel.....

[bladeracer]

IIf ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Ask him what he thinks about civilians having semi-auto rifles...

Don’t want to open that can of worms blade, this forum gets too political at the best of times.....
Just want to work up some 30-06 hunting loads

Makes sense, but you don't need to buy his book to do that.
Put some AR2206H (H4895) or AR2208 (Varget) in the case, whack a Speer Hotcore on top to keep the powder in, and go shoot some stuff
http://www.adiworldclass.com.au/data-ri ... pringfield

Unless you're shooting rabbits past 200m you don't need to chase sub-minute accuracy.
Unless you're shooting deer past 300m you don't need to chase velocity.

[bigrich]

IIf ya can’t trust uncle nick who can ya trust.....

Ask him what he thinks about civilians having semi-auto rifles...

Don’t want to open that can of worms blade, this forum gets too political at the best of times.....
Just want to work up some 30-06 hunting loads

Makes sense, but you don't need to buy his book to do that.
Put some AR2206H (H4895) or AR2208 (Varget) in the case, whack a Speer Hotcore on top to keep the powder in, and go shoot some stuff
http://www.adiworldclass.com.au/data-ri ... pringfield

Unless you're shooting rabbits past 200m you don't need to chase sub-minute accuracy.
Unless you're shooting deer past 300m you don't need to chase velocity.

Your load advice sounds similar to a Elmer Keith story I read once about 358 win loads. Prime the case , scoop it full in the powder container and level it off with a business card . Whack a 225 gn projectiles on top, compress it all down and your done!

[bladeracer]

Your load advice sounds similar to a Elmer Keith story I read once about 358 win loads. Prime the case , scoop it full in the powder container and level it off with a business card . Whack a 225 gn projectiles on top, compress it all down and your done!

That's how I load .204, except I pile the powder up as high as I can, and try not to knock too much off when balancing the bullet on top